[Meat-Lad]

It’s a .22 caliber ceaseless fired by a brake action with no moving parts. the way it works is when the brake is closed the balder compresses like a BB gun then when the trigger is pulled the air is shot threw a pin hole with a ball baring in it supper heating it for a split second and igniting the power the projectile leaves the barrel at the same velocity as a standard .22LR completely silent witch is why the manufacturer was shut down by the ATF one of the coolest weapons I have ever shot o and the price for the ammo is only slightly more then a regular .22 round.

P.S. sorry for the shity pik

 

[fatcat]

Man that sounds awesome, would like to know more info about this weapon. But its shit like this that pisses me off.. Why was this banned? There is no supresser on the weapon,so by law its a normal firearm. AGUILA COLIBRI .22 is about as close to silent as you can get, yet still has enough power at close range to kill with a headshot, I have 5 bricks of it and shoot it all the time. Why was this not banned?

 

[Makarov]

How about the shotguns with 7-foot long barrels that makes a "puff" sound when fired? It appears that you can fire slugs or shot from it with the same effect. There is no suppressor and it seems to be legal. It may not be very concealable, but a sabot round fired out of a "silent" 12-gauge is pretty damn lethal to me.

 

[fatcat]

Yea! i posted about that a fairly long time ago in the shotgun forums, now why is that not a scilencer?

 

[einzelherz]

do you have any other information on this other than the photo?

 

[fatcat]

Yea, I would at least like to know the name of the maker.

 

[Meat-Lad]

all try and look somthing up if i see the owner agen enytime soon all ask him

 

[only mortal]

If I remember correctly,in the late 60's Daisy used to make 22 cal caseless ammunition with the propellent stuck to the slug that shot out of an air rifle. The Daisy V/L? thats my guess

 

[fatcat]

Daisy was the first company to introduce a production caseless ammunition and rifle, the V/L Rifle, in 1968. The V/L ammunition consisted of a .22 caliber bullet with a small disk of propellant on the back, and no primer. The rifle resembled a typical spring-air rifle, but the hot, high pressure air served not only as a power source but also to ignite the propellant on the back of the V/L cartridge. The V/L guns and ammunition were discontinued in 1969 after the BATF ruled that they constituted a firearm, and Daisy, which was not licensed to manufacture firearms, decided to discontinue manufacture rather than become a firearms manufacturer. About 23,000 of the rifles were made before production ceased.

http://www.buymilsurp.com/store/cart.php?cat=Ammunition


Very cool... Strangly enough I cant find a good picture of the rifle!

 

[fatcat]

HAH! I found one...

 

[Meat-Lad]

Yep that’s it and might I say you are a huge nerd.

 

[fatcat]

Gun nerd at that... Why thank you..

 

[only mortal]

yeah I rember seeing one of these a while ago, I never figured the process by which the air becomes hot enough to heat the propellent (?!). though supposedly the system was horrendously inaccurate and the ammuniton very rare (owner's statement, not mine) I was unfortunatley unable to try it out myself tho

 

[only mortal]

http://www.buymilsurp.com/store/cart.php?cat=Ammunition

strange, not bad prices for only a two year production run. now i kno what to get the stingy bastard for christmas ...

 

[ldivinag]

check out the H&K G11... another caseless ammo firing rifle:

http://www.hkpro.com/g11.htm