NN,
There is an _excellent_ thread toward this over at OT IIRC circa 2004. You really should look it up and read what additional 'evidence' people have propsed from multiple seemingly credible sources. As to your movie link I didn't even click it because I know exactly the film you speak of and it too was featured in that IMHO pretty damn good and interesting for OT thread.
Personally I'm on the fence with this.
I don't want to believe because well to do so would ruin everything and I am not open minded enough nor ready as a tax paying citizen to accept what is IMHO unacceptable. It gets even stranger in regard to the Pentagon building damage and I promise you most everyone in DC/MD/VA knows someone for real first person that either was in the building, in traffic just next to it, or was in the surrounding buildings art Crystal City (Arlington, VA) and you would be surprised at the inconsistencies in statements from those first hand view people. A year ago I had in VA an odd opportunity to talk with a firefighter from Arlington who was a first responder to the Pentagon incident and he told me and two others in confidence (he is the brother of one of the three and the other guy & me are very good old friends of dudes brother...we all are trusted persons who are not sketchy or irregular/mental folk) and he said that the parts and pieces of the 'aircraft' that hit the building were largely non-existant at the impact site and at the second ring to which he actually entered during the fire and the next day when it was put out. He also noted that the grounds (grass) prior to the impact hole were not only not scorched but appeared to be completely untouched to him and his fellow firefighter guys. He said do not talk about this and that he does not talk about it and that amongst the guys at the firehouse pretty much nobody talks about that day outloud amongst each other.
I don't know man, thats just what a dude who is the brother of a guy I very much trust and have known for ages said. I don't know dudes brother all that well, for all I know he could be a complete nut bag....but seriously I do not believe that to be his case.
America has all manner of odd things that have occurred that connect the dot style seem sketchy on the surface and stink once the pages are turned...
JFK's murder
RFK's murder
MLJ's murder
Malcolm X's murder
The formation of the CIA and it's relation to George Bush Sr. ( I read an AWESOME book about this back in the early 90s long before Dubya was even thought about by a guy who was allegedly a former CIA spook that went public. I cannot off hand recall the book but if and when I do I'll bump this thread...it was so damn good with all manner of highly detailed information. The guy BTW died IIRC in a hit & run accident a few years after it was published)
The 'suicide' of Clinton aide Vince Foster
Ronald Reagan funding the Contras in Nicaragua
The CIA involvement in the atrocities of the Pinochet reign and it's letting in to America former Chilean govt. officials who were directly involved in torture and disappearing citizens who voiced outrage against Pinochet (I know of this only because I dated for two years a Chilean girl who's family feld to America during those times and both parents were physically tortured by Pinochet people...they bear physical scars and their mom had her uterus damaged in the process to which they attempted to and succeeded in 'neutering' her (!))
The introduction of crack cocaine
The 'development' of HIV
American eugenics programs
The 'Tuskegee Experiment' (a very real health care shame and sham against Black men that happened and went on encouraged by the US govt. for 40 (yeah I said FORTY!) yrs. up to 1972 and would have continued indefinitely had some reporter from nowhere totally by accident happen to get wind of the program...to this day Black people don't trust Uncle Sam or doctors for that reason alone)
The Roswell incident
The list goes on and on and on and on....
I used to try to keep up with that crap and would listen to Art Bell on the radio and such. This was during pre-internet times when folks only had crap radio shows and call in programs like it to talk in an open 'forum'.
Eventually I got tired of reading and listening and thinking and wondering hey that makes no damn sense, as I understand it.
I don't know what to tell you but to offer this quote;
"We are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people."
- JFK who himself and the govt. kept secret the now exposed and confirmed fact that he was a hard drug addict that would entertain others of same at the White House for parties and had his own 'family friend' drug pusher who had direct access to him whenever he wanted all the while the cold war battle with Khrushchev including the very tenuous 'Bay of Pigs' situation
- Janq
"Trust no one." - An old timey saying
There is an _excellent_ thread toward this over at OT IIRC circa 2004. You really should look it up and read what additional 'evidence' people have propsed from multiple seemingly credible sources. As to your movie link I didn't even click it because I know exactly the film you speak of and it too was featured in that IMHO pretty damn good and interesting for OT thread.
Personally I'm on the fence with this.
I don't want to believe because well to do so would ruin everything and I am not open minded enough nor ready as a tax paying citizen to accept what is IMHO unacceptable. It gets even stranger in regard to the Pentagon building damage and I promise you most everyone in DC/MD/VA knows someone for real first person that either was in the building, in traffic just next to it, or was in the surrounding buildings art Crystal City (Arlington, VA) and you would be surprised at the inconsistencies in statements from those first hand view people. A year ago I had in VA an odd opportunity to talk with a firefighter from Arlington who was a first responder to the Pentagon incident and he told me and two others in confidence (he is the brother of one of the three and the other guy & me are very good old friends of dudes brother...we all are trusted persons who are not sketchy or irregular/mental folk) and he said that the parts and pieces of the 'aircraft' that hit the building were largely non-existant at the impact site and at the second ring to which he actually entered during the fire and the next day when it was put out. He also noted that the grounds (grass) prior to the impact hole were not only not scorched but appeared to be completely untouched to him and his fellow firefighter guys. He said do not talk about this and that he does not talk about it and that amongst the guys at the firehouse pretty much nobody talks about that day outloud amongst each other.
I don't know man, thats just what a dude who is the brother of a guy I very much trust and have known for ages said. I don't know dudes brother all that well, for all I know he could be a complete nut bag....but seriously I do not believe that to be his case.
America has all manner of odd things that have occurred that connect the dot style seem sketchy on the surface and stink once the pages are turned...
JFK's murder
RFK's murder
MLJ's murder
Malcolm X's murder
The formation of the CIA and it's relation to George Bush Sr. ( I read an AWESOME book about this back in the early 90s long before Dubya was even thought about by a guy who was allegedly a former CIA spook that went public. I cannot off hand recall the book but if and when I do I'll bump this thread...it was so damn good with all manner of highly detailed information. The guy BTW died IIRC in a hit & run accident a few years after it was published)
The 'suicide' of Clinton aide Vince Foster
Ronald Reagan funding the Contras in Nicaragua
The CIA involvement in the atrocities of the Pinochet reign and it's letting in to America former Chilean govt. officials who were directly involved in torture and disappearing citizens who voiced outrage against Pinochet (I know of this only because I dated for two years a Chilean girl who's family feld to America during those times and both parents were physically tortured by Pinochet people...they bear physical scars and their mom had her uterus damaged in the process to which they attempted to and succeeded in 'neutering' her (!))
The introduction of crack cocaine
The 'development' of HIV
American eugenics programs
The 'Tuskegee Experiment' (a very real health care shame and sham against Black men that happened and went on encouraged by the US govt. for 40 (yeah I said FORTY!) yrs. up to 1972 and would have continued indefinitely had some reporter from nowhere totally by accident happen to get wind of the program...to this day Black people don't trust Uncle Sam or doctors for that reason alone)
The Roswell incident
The list goes on and on and on and on....
I used to try to keep up with that crap and would listen to Art Bell on the radio and such. This was during pre-internet times when folks only had crap radio shows and call in programs like it to talk in an open 'forum'.
Eventually I got tired of reading and listening and thinking and wondering hey that makes no damn sense, as I understand it.
I don't know what to tell you but to offer this quote;
"We are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people."
- JFK who himself and the govt. kept secret the now exposed and confirmed fact that he was a hard drug addict that would entertain others of same at the White House for parties and had his own 'family friend' drug pusher who had direct access to him whenever he wanted all the while the cold war battle with Khrushchev including the very tenuous 'Bay of Pigs' situation
- Janq
"Trust no one." - An old timey saying
