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I always hear polarized stories about them that there either a gift from god or a malfunction waiting to cost you your life can you guys shed some light on this I get to many mixed messages from my local range “experts”.
 

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I hear all kinda bad things about them, Cracking locking blocks and slides mainly. but I to would like to know more about whats going on with them being sent with our soldiers and them breaking?
 

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The beretta M9 is a POS for a military pistol. They do crack/sheer off loking blocks and slides have cracked. 9mm NATO is a stiffer load than the regular 9mm loads we tend to buy and it beats them to death. Go to most any range that rents a variety of guns and the person who repairs them will say round for round the most repaired gun is the beretta. I know of one armorer who got sick of replacing locing blocks and put in some from taurus. He got 15k rounds out of them instead of the usual 2-3k. Now from personal experience the problems are more prevelant in Beretta USA guns instead fo Beretta Italy guns. The italian pistols just seem to be made better in terms of fit and finish as well as duability. The slide cracking isue did happen with some Italian made guns(the first run delivered o the US before Beretta USA got up and running) and this was traced back to a subcontract out to a french company where the slides were not treated properly and became more crack prone.

They have gotten a bit better in maryland in making guns but not much. Locking blocks still break and everyone in a while I still hear of frames or slides cracking. The new main issue is the fact they are jam prone in a desert enviornment, being very picky when it comes to sand. This tends to be a real issue with teh mags as well and you can now buy slightly better "sand resistant" mags for them.


To sum up Beretta has had the contract for 20 years and the pistol has been involved in a handfull of conflicts and they are wearing out really realy fast. The colt 1911/1911A1 was last delivered to the government in the 1940's and saw ww2, korea, vietnam, and a bunch of other police actions and we still have them around in our arsenals. Thats speaks volumes about the quality of Beretta m9 pistols. Eventhough most of those colts have soft metal by todays standards and are loose as hell, they still keep running. Shoot a loose beretta and it will fly apart or not work.
 

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Same here, I do know the military is looking for a shiney new .45ACP as of now.
Department of the Air Force

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Solicitation number : RFI-HANDGUN
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- Janq
 

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I hate the M9...It sucks because I've had to use it at work for the last ten years. I hate the grips, open slide and really hate the way the trigger feels. I haven't seen a lot of mechanical problems with them.
 

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I dont mind the feel of the gun. I have a Taurus improved version of it. The open slide is a good idea for the fact that should you barrel become damages with something like a bulge, it can still be fired in an emergency.

I have heard that the new 45ACP pistol search is now dead since the Govt must buy another 75k Berettas under the contract. And with money being short lately it has been put on hold for now.
 

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If, as a Marine, you are down to your sidearm, you have a whole lotta problems at that point.

Thanks for serving, btw.
 

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Your welcome it’s our civic duty to serve & protect our country and a privilege to die for liberty. Oh that reminds me will me being a Muslim affect me being deployed in the mid east or dose the emancipation proclamation prevent discrimination maybe some of you military types can help me out.
 

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Your welcome it’s our civic duty to serve & protect our country and a privilege to die for liberty. Oh that reminds me will me being a Muslim affect me being deployed in the mid east or dose the emancipation proclamation prevent discrimination maybe some of you military types can help me out.
i'm not in the military but from what i've heard, you will have a hard time unless you speak arabic, because most of the people will expect you to speak it
 
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