Gun Forums banner
1 - 11 of 11 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,033 Posts
I thought about mentioning that, but figured I'm just so much of a n00b, I missed something. ;)


I feel better now. :D
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
1,882 Posts
American Society of Law Enforcement Trainers said:
The “combat load” is used when you are engaged in a shooting situation or range course of fire and run out of ammunition. This situation calls for the weapon to be loaded immediately so that the threat can be addressed or the exercise completed. With the muzzle still pointed at the threat, you can combat load an empty shotgun by opening the action so that the ejection port is exposed. Cup a shotgun shell in your palm of your support hand and place the round into the ejection port by passing your hand under the bottom of, or over the top of the receiver. This will be determined by the direction the shell is facing in your hand. Make sure that you place the shell into the loading port with the brass end of the shell facing away from the muzzle
http://www.aslet.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=505

If you haven't seen this site yet Bobula, you prolly will soon for some sorta LE training. I know San Diego PD uses these guys.

I'm just wondering how many time this dude has jammed his thumb practicing.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
3,143 Posts
t3h reason to practice this type of single loading is if you need to change from the type of loads already in the mag

say from buck to slug or buck to sandbag

the possibilities are endless
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
300 Posts
I know i was merely being an ass. We had to combat load and combat unload many a times in the academy. Most agencies (around here) don't allow ammo swapping. If you're going to use less lethal, it's out of an orange or yellow butted gun. A few agencies around here are now slug only. Mainly because combat loading is a fine motor skill, and when the pucker factor get going all fine motor skills go out the window.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
3,143 Posts
Bobula said:
I know i was merely being an ass. We had to combat load and combat unload many a times in the academy. Most agencies (around here) don't allow ammo swapping. If you're going to use less lethal, it's out of an orange or yellow butted gun. A few agencies around here are now slug only. Mainly because combat loading is a fine motor skill, and when the pucker factor get going all fine motor skills go out the window.

slug only?

cheese and rice - you guys better hit the damn target or some other shiz is goin get f'd up for sure!


i assume you have to practice slug only moving targets?


on the other side - i can see why you want slugs over buck - its an uber penitraitor even some forms of bullet proof glass
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
300 Posts
is move of a we're responsible for every bullet. 00buck spreads on average one inch for every yard, so shooting a target at 30 yards, gives us a 30 inch spread pattern, not good for center mass. It would be a lethal hit, but most likely one or more would be off target, killing civies and elderly.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
3,143 Posts
Bobula said:
is move of a we're responsible for every bullet. 00buck spreads on average one inch for every yard, so shooting a target at 30 yards, gives us a 30 inch spread pattern, not good for center mass. It would be a lethal hit, but most likely one or more would be off target, killing civies and elderly.

yea - without forcing cone mods, even afterwards i suppose

30 yards with a shotty - i guess if thats all you had

i feel for you LEO's - i know that everyone is responsible for every shot regardless, but honestly as a civie i bet we see ourselves in far fewer scenarios where deadly force is present


just this week, there was a LEO shoot out that followed a traffic stop turned high speed chase which ended up in a neighborhood

a 8yr old boy that asleep in his bed was struck in the back by a "stray" bullet

it amazes me what the general public "doesnt" know about balistics and such

the news/media is playing it out too - its just sucks all the way around
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
170 Posts
Bobula said:
is move of a we're responsible for every bullet. 00buck spreads on average one inch for every yard, so shooting a target at 30 yards, gives us a 30 inch spread pattern, not good for center mass. It would be a lethal hit, but most likely one or more would be off target, killing civies and elderly.
that is old school buckshot. new tactical 00 buck is about 1/4" spread per yard. this means that at 30 yards the shotgun is very accurate. yes there are stray pellets every now and then, but the stuff is awesome.

imo combat loading is a good thing. if you shoot your shotgun dry, combat reload the first, then put 4 others in the tube. with the round combat loaded, you are ready to fire immediately... there are different schools of thought on that subject for sure :)

and on the comment about mixing lethal and less than lethal rounds during combat loading... thats a disaster waiting to happen.
 
1 - 11 of 11 Posts
Top