I couldn't agree more. That's why I didn't doubt that it happened, just said that since it did is was either a faulty car, or more likely, a faulty driver. Regardless, I love those new TRs. For the same reason I have always liked the EVO RS; the TR is getting the WRX line back to where it was in the first place: bare bones near-rallye cars. The fully loaded STis and MRs make no sence to me. For $35+ I'll just buy a year old C6 or C5 Z06 and have my self a real sports car, not an econo box artificially inflated with fancy doo-dads. A $22k car that will smoke Zs, RX8s, RSXs, etc. on the other hand makes my mouth water.Shad said:Not that he needs it (that's a schweet car no matter what) but in Bruce's defense, it's all on the driver. If the driver doesn't know when to shift or how much throttle to give when they should, then the car is pretty much armcandy. I field race (kind of a ******* sport, I know) and the biggest lesson I learned from that is: The driver is more important than the car 90% of the time.