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I would carry, but I am not old enough to buy one and noone will buy one for me. I will be getting one not through a dealer soon though.
 

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I will be getting my permit this week in the mail. What state do you guys have it in? Is it true you cannot carry in a place that serves alcohol? I havent read thorugh the whole law book yet so i dont know.
 

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You can't carry where they serve alcohol. Also can't carry in a building that can have more than 20,000 people, churches, gov't buildings, schools, blah blah blah. They go over all that in the concealed carry course you have to take to get your permit. Laws vary slightly from state to state, too. I have permits in Michigan and Minnesota, but I live in Wisconsin, so I can't carry at home. I spend a lot of time in Michigan, though,. Damn concealed carry got shot down at the state assembly on Jan 31st by 2 fucking votes. Guess it's a good thing I'm moving to Minnesota again in a couple months.
 

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Make sure you're familiar with your local laws before you start packing heat where ever you go. And always be cognisant that you must be the mature, responsible one, and can only use your firearm to defend against the death and/or serious bodily injury of yourself or another, and not against property crimes, like theft.

I carry once in a while, depending on where I'm going and what I'm doing. Just a run to Target? No. Down to the Precinct to get my check? you're damn right.
 

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I don't carry yet. I've been planning on getting my permit fo a while now. just been to busy, but hopefully i'll get it soon.
 

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Damn Yankee said:
Make sure you're familiar with your local laws before you start packing heat where ever you go. And always be cognisant that you must be the mature, responsible one, and can only use your firearm to defend against the death and/or serious bodily injury of yourself or another, and not against property crimes, like theft...
PLUS ONE!!!

If one is asking stuff like can you carry in a place serving alcohol then that is a sign that one really needs to sit down and spend serious time reviewing their own state & community laws as related to concealed carry and fireamrs ownership overall (e.g. possesion & use/discharge on ones own property). Laws vary state to state as related to carry within establishments including those that serve alcohol.

For example in VA to do so is illegal unless carried openly where they actually have open carry laws. But if you posses a CHP (Concealed Handgun Permit) in VA and carry openly then you are breaking the law and thus can loose your CHP if approached by the police for inquiry. Leave your sidearm in the car or don't go in is the rule of the day there. Unlicensed open carry is legal in VA and thus said person then could legally carry in an establishment that serves alcohol and not be dinged. Same rules apply to churches and some state govt. buildings. as dependant on county and town laws.

Oppositely in MA it is not illegal to carry concealed in a place that serves alcohol (e.g. restaurant) as there is nothing written in state law expressly stating it's not allowed. But in practice if you do carry there and a patron or bartender calls the police against you for any given reason you had better have a very good excuse for being there carrying _and_ have not taken a single drink of alcohol. Reason being is that the individual town Sherriff/Police chief may at their own and instant/immediate discretion detain you and/or onsite revoke your LTC (License To Carry type 'A' - 'All Lawful Purposes'). In this state revocation can and does occur if the sherrif/chief decided that you are not a person of "high moral standard" which is allowable as per MA law, and any istance of LTC revocation then imediately disallows a person from renewal or application in the futrue for life in the state of MA.

Not knowing your own state, county and even in some cases town laws as related to concealed carry or even such as in MA firearms possesion & ownership laws in general can result in dire for you problems in the eyes of the law never mind your own intent and as with most everything else in life, ignorance is not an acceptable excuse.
Big boy rules apply, do not entertain as much unless you are able and willing to follow them.

- Janq has a resident VA 'CHP' and MA 'LTC-A' and carries sometimes though may transition to 100%
 

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Mass is not a state, it's its own communist nation...most of my family lives in Mass, and the gun laws there are crazy.
Indeed...indeed they are.

The only upside to MA firearms law is that one can carry concealed to a place that serves alcohol which is very handy as relative to taking family out for a bite to eat as most every place around that serves food has a liquor license.

- Janq
 

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Mass is not a state, it's its own communist nation...most of my family lives in Mass, and the gun laws there are crazy.
Some of their laws are more strict than CA, like the ammo law that says you can't have more than X amount of ammo at a time...

CA has MA beat though... :(
 

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Damn Yankee said:
Mass is not a state, it's its own communist nation...most of my family lives in Mass, and the gun laws there are crazy.
Some of their laws are more strict than CA, like the ammo law that says you can't have more than X amount of ammo at a time...

CA has MA beat though... :(
since they both have ocean borders, I say we break them off and set them to sea...they can be their own countries. then we'll attack them to rid the world of communism!
 

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I sympathise with our MA and CA Brothers but I am SO FUCKING HAPPY I moved to a free state. :D
 

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brucelee said:
Damn Yankee said:
Mass is not a state, it's its own communist nation...most of my family lives in Mass, and the gun laws there are crazy.
Some of their laws are more strict than CA, like the ammo law that says you can't have more than X amount of ammo at a time...

CA has MA beat though... :(
Moreover in MA you cannot posses or purchase ammunition nor components there in (i.e. casing, bullet, primer or powder) without possesing a current minimum MA FID (Firearms Identification) card.
Move to MA with ammo in hand and you are automatically committing what is deemed in MA as a firearm violation, whihc is a felony and lifetime disqualifier toward ever possesing a MA LTC of any type (A or B).
Oh, and MA does not recognize any other states LTC/CHP so hoping/thinking that reciprocation will save ya is fubar amongst this Nazi regime.

- Janq
 

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yeah, that is the part that really pisses me off, that you have to have an FID card for anything...

Like my father bought my uncle a gun, but couldn't legally drive it down to him, becase he lives in NH and doesn't have a MA FID card. Doesn't mean he didn't do it, just that it wasn't legal :wink:
 

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i like it in the southwest where u cant even say gun on a reservation.

traveling through the state on interstates and major highways you rip right through reservations all the time!
 

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Utah has like the most lax laws around. if you are over 18 you can open carry with no permit as long as you don't carry a round in the chamber. and when 21 you can concealed carry basically anywhere. (not sure about govmnt buildings)
 

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Bad things can and do happen everywhere & anywhere...

Tonight I had an incident occur in a public parking space, while carrying, that some folks who carry might have chosen to deploy there CCW.
No time right now but I'll post a thread tomorrow here and at OT with all the details.
I just couldn't get myself motivated tonight to do a long write up and I'm off to bed soon for an early morning.

Crap happens people everywhere and most often at times when you least expect it and are least 'tactically' prepared mentally or otherwise.
I was in a low crime area well lit in a large shopping plaza parking lot adjacent to a major road with lots of traffic.
I made the instant and concious choice not to deploy and instead as based on past life experiences repositioned myself behind the hood of a parked vehicle in preperation to minimize my physical exposure and maximize my ability to reduce/prevent my own harm all the while while quickly assesing my surroundings and the potential bad guys for weakness and most importantly 'J.A.M.'.

- Janq was just minding his business not looking for trouble
 

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CCW is nigh impossible for non LEO in my county. :cry:

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Re: Bad things can and do happen everywhere & anywhere..

Janq said:
Tonight I had an incident occur in a public parking space, while carrying, that some folks who carry might have chosen to deploy there CCW.
No time right now but I'll post a thread tomorrow here and at OT with all the details.
I just couldn't get myself motivated tonight to do a long write up and I'm off to bed soon for an early morning.

Crap happens people everywhere and most often at times when you least expect it and are least 'tactically' prepared mentally or otherwise.
I was in a low crime area well lit in a large shopping plaza parking lot adjacent to a major road with lots of traffic.
I made the instant and concious choice not to deploy and instead as based on past life experiences repositioned myself behind the hood of a parked vehicle in preperation to minimize my physical exposure and maximize my ability to reduce/prevent my own harm all the while while quickly assesing my surroundings and the potential bad guys for weakness and most importantly 'J.A.M.'.

- Janq was just minding his business not looking for trouble
Damn dude! You cant leave us hanging like that!!!
 
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