[EndlessWaltz RS]

I've been toying with the idea of picking up either a Walther P22 or a Sig Mosquito. I was at Montana Hawk not too long ago in Cotati and was told to stay away from the Sig Mosquito because they tend to have problems. Anyone know of this? I like the idea of the Mosquito a lot more as its almost the full size of the P226. Any suggestions on what to do here would be greatly appreciated. I'll be honest, I wanna start out with something smallish like a 22 and work my way up to a 45 seeing as I have never shot a handgun before. Thanks a bunch.

 

[Adler]

Brucelee bought one and its a jam-0-matic POS....do stay away from them. The Walther can be a bit tempermental until it breaks in just to let you know. But for the money and that fact you are thinking of going up to a 45acp gun I would consider the Ruger22/45 series. It has the same reliable system as their Mk1,Mk2, Mk3 but with a grip that resembles a fullsize 45 pistol. Plus they are utterly reliable and usually more economical than the Sig or Walther.

 

[Janq]

The Mosquito comes with two recoil springs the hardest of which (IIRC 'green') installed factory with the second amongst the packaging.
Most all of the complaints as per the many threads from folks at SigForum.com have narrwoed down to one thing, matching a given ammo to one of the two springs. It almost never fails once a person swaps springs for a given ammo they choose sufddenly their problems resolve themselves. Check in at SigForum.com for more info and you'll find the same.

Bruceless has one and as of last month had yet to send it in to Sig or drop by a dealer to have the item reviewed.

- Janq

 

[Adler]

True he hasnt but he has tried everything under the sun to fix it friom cleaning, lubing, ammo variances and to no avail.


22lr pistols can be a bastard...I have one I cant get right(22lr Luger) and my next attempt to make it feed is to polish and chamfer the chamber.

 

[brucelee]

I've tried everything to make my pistol fire correctly, and all attemps have failed. The ONLY way it will fire 100% of the time is if I put 2-3 drops of oil on the tip of the first bullet of every magazine. Which is a pain in the ass.


It's a terrible pistol and I'd def stay way if I were you.

 

[Adler]

Daniel you may need to polish the feed ramp and chamber with a dremel. Seems like she has alot of drag.

 

[Janq]

Daniel you may need to polish the feed ramp and chamber with a dremel. Seems like she has alot of drag.

Even better and easier for a sure fix, send it back to Sig via an RMA as it comes with a lifetime guarantee and they'll pay the Fedex charges to boot.

- Janq

 

[Adler]

True but he might have to wait several months and I bet it wont come back fixed. I see this alot on factory repairs....especially Ruger as of late. It took 10 weeks to get a front sight straightened and the person had to send it back in right away due to handling marks.

I know the 22 jamomatic blues as well. I have an Erma luger that jams a ton but unlike Brucelee, I cant send in back in since the company went under about 10 years ago.

 

[ratracer]

I brought the Sig Mosquito before reading brucelee's review on another forum. I liked the feel and the balance of the gun, but my first time on the range it would jam or misfire 2-3 time per 10 rounds. I switched to the high velocity spring and clean the thing to heck...going again this weekend to see if it helped. Also, the range only had one kind of ammo to try, but I'm going to bring a few different this time. I hope it not a POS. I've read bad things about the Walther P22 too. Seems like the Ruger is the best bet.

 

[Janq]

True but he might have to wait several months and I bet it wont come back fixed. I see this alot on factory repairs....especially Ruger as of late. It took 10 weeks to get a front sight straightened and the person had to send it back in right away due to handling marks.

I know the 22 jamomatic blues as well. I have an Erma luger that jams a ton but unlike Brucelee, I cant send in back in since the company went under about 10 years ago.

Nope, Sig repair rotates in and out within a week.
I know from direct experiences sending in my GSR for repair and tuning.
Besides what difference doesit make if it's out 10 weeks when he's been sitting on it complaining about it not functioning since September.

Sig is not Ruger or Erma (?).

- Janq

 

[Adler]

Erma was a German firm that produced mausers and luger for the German army in both world wars. back then it was known as the Erfurt works. Erma 's guns were actually higher priced than many sigs at the time since they produced competition revolvers and olympic style pistols as well. They also mad those neato Iver Johnson 22lr and 22mag M1 carbines you used to see.

BTW..not to bash SIG or anything but I have seen some really picky 220's that just would not feed hollow points worth a damn.


Ruger used to be the shit...but when the founder died not too long ago things have kinda gone to shit in the service department. As fot sitting around for 10 weeks...well thats not bad but when it comes back with vis e marks on the barrel and had to be resent in to be reblued and case hardened....well that isnt cool.

 

[ratracer]

Just read a few more things about the Mosquito on the SigForum. Looks like you can send it back to Sig to fix whatever problems they are having. I'll be looking into that.

 

[brucelee]

Yeah, I'll prolly just send my pistol back to sig to get it "fixed". I'll update you guys when I do.

 

[Janq]

Just read a few more things about the Mosquito on the SigForum. Looks like you can send it back to Sig to fix whatever problems they are having. I'll be looking into that.

Just like most any other purchase and especially with a firearm, thats generally the best and first route to take.
Myself I would never take to home made repairs & resolutions without first exhausting all measures via my warranty. I mean thats why yo buy top tier equipment to start with becuase the mfr. stands behind their product.
Otherwise why pay the top tier dollars just save moeny and buy cheap Chinese knockoffs and then run a Dremel tool through them at home to make stuff work.

Just as with your car if something goes wrong with your new purchase you first go back to the dealer and/or mfr.
I see these types of thread often at other places including SigForum and I never understand why it is people are unwilling or unthinking to contact customer support first. It's so dang easy to get an RMA (from Sig).

- Janq

 

[EndlessWaltz RS]

Awsome...thanks for all the help guys. Im gonna do a lot more reading and check things out.

Daniel, please do let us know how it turns out and if it comes back truely "fixed". Thanks again.

Patrick

 

[alacrity024]

i bought a p22 brand new with a brick of high-velocity ammo.

it cycled every round except one perfectly..

then i bought a box of regular run of the mill .22lr ammo and it failed to cycle nearly every round.

bought another box of 550 high-velocity rounds for $10 and it just chewed right through them with no problem.

i sent it back to S&W to get a couple things fixed, but i was shooting again in no time and paid exactly $0.

p22's like to run hot ammo and S&W will likely fix a problem if you have one. that's pretty much the end of that.

 

[fatcat]

i bought a p22 brand new with a brick of high-velocity ammo.

it cycled every round except one perfectly..

then i bought a box of regular run of the mill .22lr ammo and it failed to cycle nearly every round.

bought another box of 550 high-velocity rounds for $10 and it just chewed right through them with no problem.

i sent it back to S&W to get a couple things fixed, but i was shooting again in no time and paid exactly $0.

p22's like to run hot ammo and S&W will likely fix a problem if you have one. that's pretty much the end of that.

I was wondering that myself, if the P22's will run some of the lower end ammo, that mini-mag ammo may be cheap but it adds up with how much I shoot my .22's. Im going to get a p22 if it will take High cap mags, but if not I may go with the Walther G22 bullpup rifle.

 

[Adler]

I dont think anyone makes hi cap mags for 22lr target pistols in general.

 

[fatcat]

Yea, there are a few for the Rugers but you hardly see them around even after the ben ended. I guess I could just get that G22 with the 10 round mags or buy a P22 and a few extra mags and change them into High caps like I did with my marlin 795 .22 (PICE OF SHIT BTW!!!) I have sent it back so many damn times.... it runs great with that sniper subsonic 60 grain 22lr (Show me a semi auto .22 that will not run those rounds... with a 60 grain bullet it will cycle any gun no matter what) But run mini mags in it.... jams after 10 or so rounds every other round.

 

[jamz]

My P22 runs okay with HV golden bullets or whatever they're called. It like to be broken in with hotter stuff, but a couple hundred rounds (i.e. about half an hour) and you are GTG.

Cheaper than the mosquito too, IIRC. I like the mosquito initially, and though it would be a good semi-auto .22, but then I saw that it was made out of the same crap metal as the P22 is.