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ok. ill admit, im really lazy. im sure i could spend 15 minutes googling rifle laws in cali but asking the experts directly just seems so much easier.

in any event, my room mate wants an ar-15. i personally have never really planned to own any assault type rifles, im happy with my airsoft rifle. however, in discussing the ar-15 he brought to my attention that to be cali legal, you cant have a removable magazine. essentially, you have to fix the mag and spread the receiver pieces to load.... well that in itself is reason enough for me not to want to own one. if i can slam mags then wtf is the point?

my first question: is that even true?

Q2: is 10 rounds still the max you can have in ANY semi-auto rifle, assault rifle or otherwise?

Q3: what makes a rifle an assault rifle?

Q4: can i have a semi-auto mag-fed M-14 in cali?

Q5: can anyone suggest a rifle that might please someone in the market for an assault type rifle who operantly cant own one.


as always, thanks for any reply's.
 

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From my understanding you can have removable magazines, they just can't be more than 10 rounds.

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Nose Nuggets said:
even in a "terrorist" rifle?
As far as I understand, but I could be wrong.

Look at the Kel-Tec SU-16. It has removable mags even in CA spec. Just make sure you don't have a "flash hider", bayonet lug or a threaded barrel and you're good to go.

That's just my understanding though. Fortunately, I don't live in a communist anti-gun state ;)

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my first question: is that even true?
Yes

Q2: is 10 rounds still the max you can have in ANY semi-auto rifle, assault rifle or otherwise?
Tube fed magazines, such as a marlin model 60 are an exception

Q3: what makes a rifle an assault rifle?
12276.1. (a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall
also mean any of the following:
(1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to
accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
(A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action
of the weapon.
(B) A thumbhole stock.
(C) A folding or telescoping stock.
(D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
(E) A flash suppressor.
(F) A forward pistol grip.
(2) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine
with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
(3) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length
of less than 30 inches.
(4) A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a
detachable magazine and any one of the following:
(A) A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor,
forward handgrip, or silencer.
(B) A second handgrip.
(C) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely
encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon
without burning his or her hand, except a slide that encloses the
barrel.
(D) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location
outside of the pistol grip.
(5) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the
capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
(6) A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:
(A) A folding or telescoping stock.
(B) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action
of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip.
(7) A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a
detachable magazine.
(8) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
(b) The Legislature finds a significant public purpose in
exempting pistols that are designed expressly for use in Olympic
target shooting events. Therefore, those pistols that are sanctioned
by the International Olympic Committee and by USA Shooting, the
national governing body for international shooting competition in the
United States, and that are used for Olympic target shooting
purposes at the time the act adding this subdivision is enacted, and
that would otherwise fall within the definition of "assault weapon"
pursuant to this section are exempt, as provided in subdivision (c).

Q4: can i have a semi-auto mag-fed M-14 in cali?
Yes if mag is less then 10 rounds
Q5: can anyone suggest a rifle that might please someone in the market for an assault type rifle who operantly cant own one. SKS, also .22lr is exempt. hence my americorp arms AK-47FS in .22lr
 

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Nose Nuggets said:
ok. ill admit, im really lazy. im sure i could spend 15 minutes googling rifle laws in cali but asking the experts directly just seems so much easier.

in any event, my room mate wants an ar-15. i personally have never really planned to own any assault type rifles, im happy with my airsoft rifle. however, in discussing the ar-15 he brought to my attention that to be cali legal, you cant have a removable magazine. essentially, you have to fix the mag and spread the receiver pieces to load.... well that in itself is reason enough for me not to want to own one. if i can slam mags then wtf is the point?

my first question: is that even true?

Q2: is 10 rounds still the max you can have in ANY semi-auto rifle, assault rifle or otherwise?

Q3: what makes a rifle an assault rifle?

Q4: can i have a semi-auto mag-fed M-14 in cali?

Q5: can anyone suggest a rifle that might please someone in the market for an assault type rifle who operantly cant own one.


as always, thanks for any reply's.
i strongly advise you to visit Calguns.net if you have any questions about building a CA-legal AR-15 rifle. And, no, if you build a CA-legal AR-15 rifle, it won't be an "assault rifle."
 

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>>my first question: is that even true?
You can have removable magazines. You can also have high capacity magazines if you owned them CA before 2000. There's all these weird rules about it though. See Question 3.

>>Q2: is 10 rounds still the max you can have in ANY semi-auto rifle, assault >>rifle or otherwise?
Yes 10 rounds is max on post ban. It's also safest to not get your precious preban magazines in public.

>>Q3: what makes a rifle an assault rifle?
http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/awguide.pdf

>>Q4: can i have a semi-auto mag-fed M-14 in cali?
You can have a Springfield M1A. Dunno how many semi only Gov't M14' s there ever was.

>>Q5: can anyone suggest a rifle that might please someone in the market
>>for an assault type rifle who operantly cant own one.
You can put an AR together in CA. Many people have. There were also some CA Legal AR's that were made
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=66715737

Bushmaster made fake sliding stocks and non removable 10 round magazines on an AR.

Even CA Legal AK47's..
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=66297254

Even better info. What you can get away with ;)
http://www.calguns.net/copmemo2.pdf
 

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>>Q2: is 10 rounds still the max you can have in ANY semi-auto rifle, assault >>rifle or otherwise?
Yes 10 rounds is max on post ban. It's also safest to not get your precious preban magazines in public.
Except tube fed!
 

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the best way to deal with ca.'s unconstitutional firearm laws is to move out of that shit hole and pray for an earthquake.come to ky home of the knob creek machine gun shoot. we can have anything we want except explosive projectiles.
 

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hugh g. rection said:
the best way to deal with ca.'s unconstitutional firearm laws is to move out of that shit hole and pray for an earthquake.come to ky home of the knob creek machine gun shoot. we can have anything we want except explosive projectiles.
and pray for an earthquake to come? man, shut the fuck up.
 

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hugh g. rection said:
the best way to deal with ca.'s unconstitutional firearm laws is to move out of that shit hole and pray for an earthquake.come to ky home of the knob creek machine gun shoot. we can have anything we want except explosive projectiles.

Anything you want EXCEPT?!?!?!?! How unconstitutional.........
 

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Anything you want EXCEPT?!?!?!?! How unconstitutional.........
i do agree,and am against all unconstitutional firearms legislation.explosive projectiles are the only exception here in ky.class 3,suppressors, aow,ccw.we can openly pack in public and have a concealed rifle or shotgun in our vehicles without any permit what so ever.considering other states laws ours are pretty unrestrictive.and the explosive projectile regulation is total bull shit.
 
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