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Run-in changes lawmaker's stance

Tuesday, May 15, 2007
Phillip Morris
Plain Dealer Columnist

It's funny how a gun can in stantly change your perspec tive on things, make you wish you could rewrite history.

State Rep. Michael DeBose, a southside Cleveland Democrat, discovered this lesson the night of May 1, when he thought he was going to die. That's the night he wished he had that gun vote back.

DeBose, who had just returned from Columbus, where he had spent the day in committee hearings, decided to take a short walk up Holly Hill, the street where he has lived with his wife for the past 27 years.

It was late, but DeBose, 51, was restless. The ordained Baptist minister knew his Lee-Harvard neighborhood was changing, but he wasn't scared. The idle, young men who sometimes hang out on his and adjacent streets didn't threaten him.

He is a big man and, besides, he had run the same streets before he found Jesus - and a wife. That night, he just needed a walk.

The loud muffler on a car that slowly passed as he was finishing the walk caught his attention, though. When the car stopped directly in front of his house - three houses from where he stood - he knew there was going to be a problem.

"There was a tall one and a short one," DeBose said, sipping on a McDonald's milkshake and recounting the experience Friday.

"The tall one reached in his pocket and pulled out a silver gun. And they both started running towards me."

"At first I just backed up, but then I turned around and started running and screaming."

"When I started running, the short boy stopped chasing and went back to the car. But the tall boy with the gun kept following me. I ran to the corner house and started banging on Mrs. Jones' door."

It was at that point that the would-be robbers realized that their prey wasn't worth the trouble. Besides, Cheryl, DeBose's wife, and a daughter had heard his screams and had raced out to investigate. Other porch lights began to flicker on.

The loud muffler sped off, and DeBose started rethinking his gun vote.

DeBose twice voted against a measure to allow Ohioans to carry concealed weapons. It became law in 2004.

DeBose voted his conscience. He feared that CCW permits would lead to a massive influx of new guns in the streets and a jump in gun violence. He feared that Cleveland would become the O.K. Corral, patrolled by legions of freshly minted permit holders.

"I was wrong," he said Friday.

"I'm going to get a permit and so is my wife.

"I've changed my mind. You need a way to protect yourself and your family.

"I don't want to hurt anyone. But I never again want to be in the position where I'm approached by someone with a gun and I don't have one."

DeBose said he knows that a gun doesn't solve Cleveland's violence problem; it's merely a street equalizer.

"There are too many people who are just evil and mean-spirited. They will hurt you for no reason. If more people were packing guns, it might serve as a deterrent.

"But there obviously are far deeper problems that we need to address," he added, as he suddenly seemed to realize he sounded like a gun enthusiast.

They say the definition of a conservative is a liberal who has been mugged. DeBose's CCW application will bear some witness to that notion.

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Ducman said:
Will he vote for the masses to have guns, or just wants himself to have one
Below is the post I made at CombatCarry where I first saw this featured...
What pisses me off about people of power like this is how abilities and exercising of them are okay for others only after they themselves have experienced and/or discovered a direct need for as much.
As though prior to his own situation the calls and comments of very many others amongst his constituents and the country at larger who prior fell on deaf ears were nothing more than anecdotes and histrionics.

I say deny him his permit request just as he voted to do so for his constituents and leave home to figure out alternative means to defend himself and his family. I say to him go buy a dog. Don't walk around your neighborhood at dusk or dark. Buy a cellphone and dial '9-1-1'. Leave the guns to the cops.
Don't worry be happy is what I'd say to him just as he said and voted toward his constituents.

These people kill me how they walk through life believing that because such and such has not happened to them then well it must not be of relevance and/or it only happens in bad neighborhoods or the 'inner city' and such other proven to be crap crap ass responses.

What are we citizens supposed to do in the mean time, wait and hope & pray that our town and state lawmakers fall victim to a random crime and that they then might 'change their mind' so that they themselves might be able to defend themselves and as a secondary result we serfs too might enjoy similar same?

Next time maybe he could in a calm voice talk to his attackers about how he voted against citizen defensive measures and that as such he is of no harm to them and to just take his wallet and go on their way.

A hypocritical moron he is.
It's now okay for us only because he's now discovered that he and his family are amongst if not one of 'us'.

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