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Annapolis police raided the wrong apartment Wednesday night, using flash grenades and kicking a resident in the groin before they realized their mistake, police and the family said.

Police spokesman Hal Dalton said something must have gone amiss in the briefing beforehand. "We don't know how the mistake was made," Dalton said.

Silvia Bernal, 30, told The (Annapolis) Capital that about 15 officers burst through the front door of her apartment while she was cooking dinner about 8:20 p.m. She said the officers kicked her husband in the groin while she fled into a bedroom and barred the door with her body.

Then she said both of them were taken to the ground and handcuffed. The Capital said a police officer went outside and realized they had raided the wrong residence.

Dalton said they were supposed to have raided a different apartment and said the incident was regrettable.

Spa Cove apartment manager Latisha Marshall says there is a large dent in the front door. And she said there are two large black stains from the flash-bang grenades police deployed after entering the apartment.

When officers and the city's tactical squad went to the right unit, they said it was empty.
 

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I always wonder.
 

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DBK,

Please repost this story along with the originating source link over at OT.
There are a lot of fools there who think this kind of thing does not occur but to people who must have been doing something criminal else wise and thus they would not live next/near to other criminals.

BTW they likley will not recieve an apology because that would imply acceptance of fault, legally. Also they will very likely have to replace their door and their flooring using funds out of their own pocket and good luck getting refunded for time & materials muchless their own individual pain and suffering...without having to sue the city which itself is not free.

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That scares the shit out of me, If someone kicked in my door without knocking i would open fire on there ass!

You can get police stuff anywhere now and as shown on this fourm a few times they are doing that kind of stuff.
 

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That scares the shit out of me, If someone kicked in my door without knocking i would open fire on there ass!

You can get police stuff anywhere now and as shown on this fourm a few times they are doing that kind of stuff.

hell yeah...i know i have done nothing wrong for a cop to be kicking down my door...so my 1st instinct would be to my shotty out lol
 

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Me too...and seeing some guy in a 'SWAT' or 'POLICE' labelled garb would not alay my fears for my familys safety.
I know I'm not a criminal and thus would react with vigor...and very likely get shot if not killed by the oops my fault po-po.

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yep - pretty sure flash bangs would indicate LEO vs non-LEO


but you never can tell
 

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In the police academy, officers are trained to "knock and notice". You have to give a LOUD verbal warning that you're the police and give a reasonable time for the occupant to open the door. Depends on the size of the house, time of night, etc. Lets say the typical time from announcing to breaking the door down is 30 seconds, which a reasonable time for a very small house, that's a good chunk of notice to open up...

However, if you're like me and sometimes have headphones on while playing games late at night and don't hear the door, you better believe that pistol or rifle is going into action regardless of who it is... I know I haven't committed any crimes, and I know that no law enforcement agency has ANY right to come into my house, so I'll be thinking that it's a home invasion robbery with people pretending to be cops... Especially since people know I have guns (even though they are locked up for the most part minus my side arm and various "evil rifle" for home invasion scenarios (yeah, I'm paranoid) )... It's a good way for them to get me to open my safe and all that and take all my guns, etc. Not that I've thought about this before or anything. lol

But yeah, I brought this particular subject up to the sergeant during instruction and he said that it's a risk officers have to take, even if it is the wrong house, mistakes do happen... If you start firing, they will put you down. So it's the chance you take. As soon as they even see you with a gun in hand they will shoot, ask questions later, I know I would if I was in that situation. Shoot first, ask questions later.

But very interesting topic indeed.
 

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MrMcCrackin said:
yep - pretty sure flash bangs would indicate LEO vs non-LEO


but you never can tell

If I hear/see a flash bang, I'm pretty much in surrender mode as it's more likely to be LE... I'd look out of the window as I'm in a 2 story house that faces the street so I can see what cars they are in. If its police vehicles, I've done nothing wrong and will willing surrender, however, if I see a couple of unmarked cars, you better believe they will be eating the bad end of 7.62.
 

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A flashbang would stun most anyone and your dog too.
But not always do police use them in cases like this of mistaken house identity.
Also flashbangs don't stunt he whole house. What if you are in a side room, bathroom, upstairs or in my case whole other side wing of the house? I hear or see some big ass explosion & flash of light go off inside my house my first thought would be guns are going off inside my home (!), guns are going off inside my home and have hit something causing an electrical short (!), or bastards are throwing cherrybombs or 1/4 sticks of dynamite around inside my house (!).
I seriously doubt I'd even think of flashbangs having never personally experienced one but have seen the others as mentioned occur and they too are loud as hell as well as generate momentary stunning flashes of light.

This kind of scenario is up there with worst case occurances that could maybe happen in life.

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Janq,
I've experienced the flashbang, and have played with cherrybombs and 1/4 sticks. Even if you've never been around one, I think you'd know the difference.

Besides, what kind of neighborhood do you live in, where one of your first thoughts is cherrybombs or 1/4 sticks?
Have you ever thought of moving? Colorado and Arizona are nice.:)
 

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I've had lots of time playing with cherrybombs and 1/4 sticks but zero with flashbangs. I'd have no clue what is going on other than 'damn that ain't right' and my mind would leap to the first thing I'm most familiar with.

I live in a rural area that is largely and relatively safe...similar same to Annapolis, MD where this event occurred.
Moving is out of the forseeable intermediate future, not until my youngest, BJD, is off to college minimum.

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If police are met with a wall of fire will they fall back even if none are hit and let it become a standoff? If I can see police cars and clearly SWAT team I will give up but if I can tell im sure as hell going to protect myself

As I type this I have the AK with 75rd drum next to me sometimes the AR-15 pistol with C-mag used to just be shotgun in the bedroom but the robbery around here has picked up yet again and the other night a house about 300 yards down the road got there door kicked in at night when they where home! So im a tad uptight about kicking of doors..

I hear someone kick in my door and I start fireing 15-20 rounds at the wall I would think anyone would get the hell out right?
 

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Fatcat I was just about to post the WCCO story in the CCW thread.
That specific event is just nuts!

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