[kilbie]

Absolut I agree it would be nice to live in a world where you only saw guns at the range. However I can't agree with banning civilian gun owner ship or CCW. Taking guns away from the general public would not take them away from the criminals. As Janq said they are criminals and it is in their nature to break the law. Banning guns would not stop them, it would in fact make their crimes easier by weakening their targets. Banning personal ownership of a handgun would slightly decrease the amount of gun related violent crimes, but as with everything else that is banned if people want it bad enough they will get it.

 

[Absolut]

Yeah, I agree with that especially in a place like the states where there are so many guns. I guess my position is more from the position of a brand new country that is starting 100% fresh. There is no way we could disarm America, as I said there are way too many unregistered guns, and only the guns we know about could be removed, thus leaving criminals armed and citizens close to defenseless.


Janq-You're right my stats only envolve murders, but I can't find any statistics on violent crimes that are detailed enough to show which were done with or without a firearm, the closest I could come was what I posted earlier. It would be interesting to see what the lower level (non-murder) crimes are like, but from my statistics it does show that there are less deaths, which is generally considered better than more deaths. :wink:

Anyways, as I said...my point of view is very normative, and in today's world it is next to impossible to achieve...but I still think no guns, or at least more strict regulations for owning(and having a CCL) is better than the current rules and restrictions that the US has.

Either way, I can't wait until I get my CCL.
Todd

 

[jamz]

I would only be cool with the No Guns idea only under a couple of conditions: the police and military would not be able to have them either. Reason being, if they exist at all, bad guys will get ahold of them.