[BhamRoadrunner]

First you need a good base to start from:

Remington 700 VSF -one of the few 700's I dont find to be a POS. Nice Heavy barrel which is good for Long Range shooting. Its also Chambered in .308, Very readily available for shooting. Surplus military ammo EVERYWHERE!
But that stock has GOT TO GO!

This is a Tactical stock, Pretty good and feels rather good and bypasses all of Kalipornia's laws on pistol grips and whatnot.

This is another sniper stock option, Dunno how well it flied with Kali's laws.

The trigger is another downfall that i have with the 700's. This is easily changeable just by installing a new drop in trigger

All this stuff can be bought at MidwayUSA's website. Nothing requires an FFL transfer except for buying the gun itsself.
It's a good starter for a good LONG range shooting gun. With a good round, you will be able to get well past 500 yards with very good accuracy.

If you want to go through all that, by a used 700 bdl with a shitty stock and save a few hundred dollars on the gun and spend it on a top quality stock, mcmillan bros, hs precision or high ntech specialties a trigger job and optics. If you get a long action you can switch between 300 win mag and 308 just by switching the barrel.

You mean 30-06? .308 is a Short action caliber.

No 300, win mag you can chamber a short cartridge in a long action the army does it. It works in similar cartridge like 308 and 300 win mag just switch the barrel.

Back to the topic, the socom is a good gun and expensive. You could loo for a used 1 There expensive but a lot easier to get ahold of, at least on the east coast.

Learn something new every day. Doubt i'll ever need this knowledge but ya never know.

 

[MrMcCrackin]

damn i luv dis site!

 

[Egan]

Look into the socom 16 instead of the II,
I have the 16 it is a great gun, The II is going to be very nose heavy

What are the main differences between the SOCOM II and SOCOM 16 (besides the giant foregrip and rails)?

I thought I read somewhere that they improved the recoil/muzzle rise.

 

[Ducman]

I haven't heard anything about changes and the brake looks the same
The extra weight on the front will help reduce rise, but we decrease mobility.

The 16 is a very nice shooting rifle, very controllable, the only issue is muzzle blast, but that is only for the people shooting next to you, behind the gun is great

 

[Drizzit65]

If you got the cash the stuff these guys are talking about are great. when i get some cash im thinking about getting a SOCOM16 myself.. but if your like me and your poor/cheap.. i say a good old Mauser bolt action or like what my wife got me for christmas a Mosin Nagant.

 

[Janq]

Egan,

Check the thread I just posted regarding the new for '06 and CA legal Beretta 'Rx4' rifle.

- Janq

 

[daybreak]

Egan,

Check the thread I just posted regarding the new for '06 and CA legal Beretta 'Rx4' rifle.

- Janq

yes! good thing I didn't buy kel-tec yet.

 

[Egan]

Egan,

Check the thread I just posted regarding the new for '06 and CA legal Beretta 'Rx4' rifle.

- Janq

I saw that - very nice. Any idea on when it will be available? I know the Sig 556 isn't due until late summer, which gives the Kalifornia DOJ plenty of time to ban it. But they should have no reason to ban the Beretta. And obviously a pistol grip can be added later.

 

[Egan]

BTW, I already have a thing for Beretta's:

 

[Janq]

I saw that - very nice. Any idea on when it will be available? I know the Sig 556 isn't due until late summer, which gives the Kalifornia DOJ plenty of time to ban it. But they should have no reason to ban the Beretta. And obviously a pistol grip can be added later.

Don't know for sure but I'd bet within the next quarter to take advantage of post tax refund purchase timing.
As they are marketing it toward CA I'll also bet it's already in the pipeline toward approval if not awaiting nothign but a political stamp.

DayBreak I too am glad I'd not made a Kel-Tec move or one toward a MechTech 'CCU' yet as this Beretta Rx4 just might be the ticket. I was planning to order a MechTech in March but now upon seeing this and the Sig556...I don't know.

- Janq

 

[Egan]

I think I'm going to hold off until the Beretta becomes available. The Kel-Tec looks interesting, especially with the compact foregrip instead of that odd bipod deal, but I'm not sold ont he quality or accuracy. I know the Beretta will be $150-$200 more (street price), but it's worth it for me.

In the meantime, I think I'll "borrow" one of my dad's M1 Carbines or the Mini-14. They're just collecting dust at his house, so they might as well get used.

 

[Egan]

Well, after more research I just decided to get the Kel-Tec SU-16 CA. No one around here had it in stock, but I got one of two that are coming in to one of my local gun shops. Ten day waiting period started at 11:40AM this morning.