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I'm in need of a new shotgun, I had a Mossberg 500 Mariner that I got rid of when I moved, and now I realized what a retarded idea that was, so now I need to replace it with a new shotgun. I definitely want to go pump with an 18" or 20" barrel. I can get the exact same Mossberg that I had for about $400, but I also saw a Remington M870 Marinecoat that looked nice too. Anyone have any experience with the latter?
 

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My nod goes to the Mossy. I have seen Remingtons act up more than Mossys in bad conditions. Either will be fine though, its all about preference.


I wish that Browning or its parent FN would make a tactical BPS instead of still using old Wincheter 1300 actions.
 

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best advise - go to a shop that has all 3 of them

pick them up, hold them - see how they feel in your hands


which ever one is the most comfortable - that is the one for you!



you can still do tons of research about HD Shotty's - Welcome to the basement!
 

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I know what the Mossy feels like, that's what I had before, and loved it, but that gun came to me as a gift from my grandfather. The Beneli is quite nice, but I tend to prefer the matte silver finish on the Mariner and the Remington 870 Marinecoat. I'll have to check out the Benelli though.
 

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Plus there are not nearly the accessories out there for a Benelli. Winchester 1300/1200, Mossy 500/590, and Rem 870s have about anything you want for aftermarket parts.
 

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Agreed, but I don't think you're going to pick up one for $400.:(
I found that out tonight, I took a look at one of those among other things before I went into the range to shoot. Sweet gun, expensive, but still very nice. Then again, it wasn't really any more than I paid for my Kimber...
 

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Granted, there's pretty much zero accessories for a Benelli (as I found out with my Nova... :( )

But, the price?

I picked up my Nova for the bargain price of $309.99.

Technically, I only paid about $150.00 for it, but that's not the point.

Either way... How can you go wrong with a gun that's so easy to clean? :D
 

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The 870 is where it's at

less parts and made more of metal and better built overall

this might help, compares both http://www.tacticalshotgun.ca/content_nonsub/shotguns/compare_870_590.html

With many units and agencies using reduced recoil buckshot and slugs, conventional fixed choke shotguns often do not pattern well. The user should be able to select the appropriate choke for ammunition they are using, so that they can get tighter, more controlled patterns. When wearing body armor or a tactical vest, the shooter needs a shorter stock. Back-bored and ported barrels enhance recoil reduction, while combat sights reduce acquisition time.

Remington has a range that includes the 870P pump, 11-87P gas-operated shotguns and the new 870 Modular Combat Shotgun (MCS). The MCS centers around the proprietary REM LOC quick change stock system and allows the weapon to be configured with a 10-inch breaching, 14-inch tactical or 18-inch rifle sighted barrel, pistol grips or stocks and magazine tube capacities to meet changing tactical situations quickly and without tools. It can also fire multiple ammunition sizes and types and can mount underneath an M4/M16 as an accessory weapon. A design is nearly complete to also mount the MCS underneath the experimental XM8. The MCS also comes with a receiver mounted Picatinny rail, cleaning kit, ammunition sidesaddle and discreet protective weapons case. Whether as an accessory weapon, a breaching tool, a close quarters battle weapon or a conventional high capacity shotgun, the MCS is all four in one. MCS shotgun systems have just returned from successful combat trials in and around Baghdad. In addition the U.S. Marine Corps and Air Force and the Israeli Ministry of Defence are reportedly showing interest in the MCS.

The 870-series is an industry standards upon which many modifications can be based. For instance, the Wilson Combat Scattergun is an 870 with an 18-inch cylinder bore barrel, a seven-round extended magazine with four or six shot side saddle shell carrier, a black synthetic stock, 6-volt SURE-FIRE Tactical Light and a rust resistant finish. The Professional model has a 14-inch barrel and five-round magazine. The firm also touts their patented TRAK-LOCK Ghost Ring Sight System as being able to deliver rifle-like accuracy, even under low-light conditions. Wilson will even refurbish a customer’s shotgun to their standards.

Another low cost option, from the Canadian firm Argonaut Armament’s AR15-870 CQB Stock Adapter, allows an M4/SOPMOD CQB style telescoping/ collapsible butt stock to be mounted in-line to the Remington 870 shotgun. While fairly new, these have been tested by special forces units and law enforcement tactical units.
 

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I have both, and IMO the 500 is a better design, although a steel reciver wouldn't hurt it, the aluminum one makes it light. The 500's 2 claw extractors rule, and the ejector is screwed on so you can replace it,,,unlike the 870's which if it breaks the reciver is SOL. And the 870's feed ramp is outdated, it can jam.

I aint saying 870s suck, but they have flaws to. AN 870 kicks serious ass, and so many easy mods out!

our 870
 

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Actually you can save the reciever...it just takes a gunsmith to do it, and just like on the 1100 if it needs to be done you will need to have the reciever refinished when its all said and done.
 

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I just wish that the Win 1200/1300 had been better made since they have thelightweight of the mossy 500 and they were some of the fastest pumps I have ever shot. Too bad I saw one have the sight fall off the first day it was used, busted cheap wooden stocks, and ALOT of plastic parts where I dont care for them.

Id love an Ithaca 37 the most.
 
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