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About 2 yrs ago a buddy and I started taking kids hunting shooting and fishing. Usually kids of single parents or just otherwise busy parents who are interested but have no family link, we have the time and equipment and enjoy the looks they get when they have a good day.

We've spent a lot of time with twin brothers how are very eager and all around good kids, other than being good they kinda remind us of ourselves 15yrs ago.

The 1 brother is really into archery, when we started with them he was using a recurve bow he bought at a yard sale that was pretty much junk but it was all he had until he could save up money for a new 1 and ft your into archery you know they ain't cheap. My buddy is sponsered by a big name bow manufacture whom is big into the youth movement so a phone call and the price of UPS shipping later we had him a brand new top of the line bow(ny buddy and I are both lefty so we couldn't just give him 1 of our bows) minus arrows. tips and release. My bud make arrows and between us we had 2 dozen releases laying around so it was pretty easy to get him all geared up for very little cost.

Now his brother is into trap shooting and he's pretty good at it, kicks our asses already. He was using 1 of my shotty's until he could get 1 of his own, My old HS shop teacher trains JR olympic shooters, thats what he does now. So we went to his house to shoot 1 night so he could give him a few lessons he has a lighted trap range in his backyard and he knows what he's doing. He recognised my gun and that it didn't fit we got to talking about what kind of gun would be good and how much they cost. My old teach ask the brother how much money he had on him, it was like 32$ an change, then went to his gun room came out with a very lightly used O/U and told the brother mow my lawn and give me your money and it's yours . Of course he took the deal.

Now where the dilemma comes in.

This all took place up until last september, they would leave the stuff at my house and they would comeover and we'd go shooting. In april they turned 15 and their mom bought the a membership to a sportsmans club thats half a mile from their house and she told them they could bring their stuff home which they did, I thought they were responsible enough. Somewhere along the way their mom googled the gun and bow and realised how much the stuff costs and knew that there was no way the boys could afford that. They told her how they got the stuff but she doesn't really believe it and thinks we paid for the stuff and is going crazy trying to figure out how to repay us and saying she'll pay us back and that the boys will work it off.

What do we do?

Sorry it's so long but I though you needed the whole story. It's an akward situation that we can't figure out. It's not like we spent any real money most of the money we spend is on gas and food all the major stuff we aquired.
 

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2x :lol: ^^

Seriously, it's like the same old going out to dinner with buddies thing. Tell her the truth and refuse anything she tries to give you... monetarily speaking ;-) j/k as that's what I'd do. She sounds like a stand up lady but I wouldn't want anything either for helping out those kids.

Sidenote: You guys also sound like damn fine stand up folks and reading your story has made my day. :)

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Tell her, if she gives you any money for the bow and gun, you'll just give that money to the two boys.

I'd sit down with her, and explain everything.
Plus, it sounds like the boy with the o/u paid for it himself.
 

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Tell her, if she gives you any money for the bow and gun, you'll just give that money to the two boys.
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I'd try and expline that you are just trying to pass on a love of the "Sport" and the repayment is that the boys enjoy it.
 

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Or if she's adamant have her take the money and donate it to a local gun or boys club.
As based on all the people who stand around watching as women and 91 yr. old senior citizens get beat down by bullies it seems that America could use the money toward making men out of boys.

Yet another kudo to Jeremy for reaching out.

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Having grown up in the city she doesn't ge the whole hunting/shooting thng. My buddy and I had been pretty much lost the thrill of the hunt but with these kids we're like those guys every1 complains about on hunting shows celebrating and high 5 ing and just acting stupid when they bag somethng. Their mom watches all the vidoes we take and always laughs at us but she just doesn't understand, she tries but just doesn't get it.

All she sees is the $$$ that is involved. I don't think she knew before how much guns and bows cost. Since she looked up the O/U and bow I think she's been looking at the vidoes and trying to find out how much the guns they boys use to hunt cost. They use our guns to hunt and she now worried about them "breaking" 1 of them and the fact that we don't care upsets her. It's a gun it's easily replaced should something happen to it it's only metal and plastic and it's not like I don't have a few more.

With the decline of kids getting involved in hunt/shooting there are a lot of big comanies willing to donate equipment to kids. With out the kids these companies know they have no future so giving a 1000$ worth of archery equipment or a $$$$ shotgun to a kids to ensure future business is pretty much a no brainer.( you look at these high school trap teams almost all the guns are donated by Beretta) She really can't except this concept. Her response is "who gives away a $$$ gun for 32$ and a lawn mowing?". We expalined everything to her in detail. This certain company will "give" the gun to a kid kinda like a lease to be retirned when he out grows it, the 32$ was a formality so that my old shop teacher isn't staight out lieing when he says it was sold so the gun belongs to her son straigh up and legal. All of this is just to much for her to grasp.

She just has to repay us she thinks. People don't really give away that stuff. They were just here tonight, her son needed to reload some shot shells and we had this discussion all over again. I think she's coming around to the bow I think she is finally understanding that but the O/U and the breaking of my guns just won't die easily. She just insists that she must do something and seems insulted when we don't have anything for her to do or just don't want anything.

My GF told her tonight that my bud and I are actually selfish bastards, told her we do it becasue we enjoy it and because we can it's all about us actually. I don't think it helped.

This is driving me crazy and I don't see it going away anytime soon. Can you think of anythig we could have her do just to get her off our backs? I don't like tht idea much but this is really bugging me.

It's driving me crazy
 

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sometimes you have to say it as plainly as that. some people cant take a hint. sometimes you need to spell it out, and tell them to their faces that its bothering you.

well, thats what i would do. but im an ass hole so take that into consideration.


edit: can we get this permanently added to the emote icon list?
 

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It's getting that point but I'm trying to avoid it. I do understand her side of it, if the situations was reversed I'd feel the same way. But it's not like my bud and I are paying for anything out of our pocket, we've just lucky enough to know some people in the shooting comunity and know how to use the system.
 

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Thigs still aren't completely smoothed out but it's getting better. We've talked her into going along to shoots with us so she gets an understanding of the comradary of the shooting "family". Since she's gotten to talk to and be around a lot of different shooters she's starting to understand things a little better.

She won't shoot with us yet but thats gonna change lol THe boys want to shoot in a big state trap shoot next week that my buds, gf and ffl go to so we'rer all going now. She doens't know it yet but she's shooting also hehehe. Almost ever trap gun maker is there along with some of the worlds top shooters so she's getting some shooting lessons and will be put behind the trigger of a high end $$$$$ gun so she can see that you're like family and we take care of our own. To further show her the days she goes I'm not taking a gun. Someone I never met before will hand me a gun and the ammo to shoot with just because they can and ask nothing in return. I'll buy the guys lunch and drinks and when the boys mom isn't looking give the guys money for the ammo and explain what i'm doing cuz i'd feel bad for taking advantage of the system otherwise.

The boys and their mom are all getting an 1000yd shooting introduction since that's prt of our yearly agenda for they week. And it will be the same things shooters just won't let you not participate simply because you don't have the equipment.

this is our last idea, if this don't work I'm going to the blunt this is how it is approach.
 
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