[GTKrockeTT]

Can't wait to build this baby up...7.62x39, 7.62x51

This isn't your ordinary AR lower...

 

[techwrtr2]

'splain please?

 

[GTKrockeTT]

the lower is a modular design that allows the mag well (.223 shown) to be swapped out with one that would accept AK mags, or other calibers. the upper from MGI Military is also of proprietary design that allows for a quick change barrel depending on the caliber being used.

 

[fatcat]

Holy crap! I was just thinking about looking into a new AR recever for a new rifle build. How much was it?
Just post lots of pictures when you get it finished.

Edit: Woah, thats expensive..

http://www.mgimilitary.com/Lower_Receiver_Mult_Mag_Wells.htm

I also like that quick change barrel system they have on there.

 

[only mortal]

wow, I remember seeing a system like this in development a matter of weeks ago. I had no idea that one like it was already available on the market. No suprise really due to my current state of residence.

so how would this kit compare with the one in the link below? or are they the same thing and I'm just daft?

http://www.defensereview.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=924

M16A5 Concept: A Modular, Multi-Caliber Rifle for Future Infantry Warfighters?
Posted on Tuesday, September 12 @ 09:42:51

Future Infantry/Soldier Technology by Jim Jensen

Assault Rifle/Carbine with interchangeable bolts, barrels and magazine wells can shoot 5.56mm, 7.62mm Russian, and 7.62mm NATO bullets

edit- whoops, re-read the article and yes, it is made by the very same company (MGI millitary).

 

[MrMcCrackin]

i am extreemly curious on how accurate it will be with the barrel swap in both senarios


please update us with your findings with controlled barrel testing at even yard incriments

 

[Janq]

DUDEEEEE!!!!!

I have a whole thread on this at OT and I too am very seriously thinking of getting a Hydra, it's the answer to so many problems/wants.

Please keep this thread updated as I am _very_ seriously entertaining this as my first rifle.

Oh My GAWWWWD!!!

For all thos who do not understand what they are seeing or the premise behind as much, go to my thread at OT!!!

"OT Gun Nuts: MGI 'Hydra' Modular Weapon System"
08-10-2006, 06:11 PM
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1066212

- :dancingbanana:

 

[GTKrockeTT]

i am extreemly curious on how accurate it will be with the barrel swap in both senarios


please update us with your findings with controlled barrel testing at even yard incriments

as soon as i can dig up the cash for the QCB (Quick Change Barrel) Upper and all the necessary mag wells and barrels. :mrgreen:

 

[GTKrockeTT]

DUDEEEEE!!!!!

I have a whole thread on this at OT and I too am very seriously thinking of getting a Hydra, it's the answer to so many problems/wants.

Please keep this thread updated as I am _very_ seriously entertaining this as my first rifle.

Oh My GAWWWWD!!!

For all thos who do not understand what they are seeing or the premise behind as much, go to my thread at OT!!!

"OT Gun Nuts: MGI 'Hydra' Modular Weapon System"
08-10-2006, 06:11 PM
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1066212

- :dancingbanana:

i was on the wait list for this lower since jan of this year.

 

[Janq]

Did you go pick it up or did they ship to you?
I'm interested in the whole assy. upper & lower as a kit and I'd get the AR, AK, and when it comes out the Ciener .22LR as well as 9MM magwell conversions.

Folks the upper seems spendy on the surface but it comes setup with Wilson style rails/accesory mouting points from the factory.
If you were to add the same to a regular AR, which many people do thus the setup, the cost would come out to be similar same.
For what all you get it's not really all that expensive at all if you do the math.

- Janq

 

[GTKrockeTT]

they shipped it to my FFL.

 

[fatcat]

How much are the barrel and bolt kits going for each?

 

[GTKrockeTT]

the barrel you can source from any manufacturer, the bolt for 7.62x39 is $75.

 

[fatcat]

Wow, that would add up to be expensive fast.

You dont need a special barrel to be Quick detach?

 

[techwrtr2]

Interesting idea to say the least. I'd be more in favor of it back in the days of super cheap 7.62x39 than now however.

 

[fatcat]

Yea, at the shop we have had to take WOLF ammo from 3.99 up to 5.99 for a box of 20 rounds... the price of all military ammo as gone up, I hear they use it for military training but they dont have there own supply?

WHERE THE HELL HAS ALL THE CHEAP AMMO GONE!!!!


Currently available are:
1) AR magwell, which accepts AR15 mags and any other mags that fit into the AR15.
2) AK magwell, which accepts AK47 mags(no drums)

Upcoming magwells that are coming fairly soon:
1) M14 .308 magwell
2) 45ACP Grease Gun magwell
3) 9mm Sten magwell
4) AK74 5.45x39 magwell

Future expected magwells and special items for the Modular Lower:
1) Duty Pistol magwells in a variety of types(yes, including Glock).
2) Belt Feed System for 5.56 and/or 7.62x39.
3) 22LR 10/22 magwell
4) PPsh/Suomi magwell which will take drums/sticks for 7.62x25 pistol rounds
5) Colt 9mm system SMG magwell for Colt SMG mags
6) Some form of .22WMR magwell for you .22 Magnum lovers



The ones that make me the most happy

2) 45ACP Grease Gun magwell
4) AK74 5.45x39 magwell
2) Belt Feed System for 5.56 and/or 7.62x39
4) PPsh/Suomi magwell which will take drums/sticks for 7.62x25 pistol rounds

 

[MrMcCrackin]

Yea, at the shop we have had to take WOLF ammo from 3.99 up to 5.99 for a box of 20 rounds... the price of all military ammo as gone up, I hear they use it for military training but they dont have there own supply?

WHERE THE HELL HAS ALL THE CHEAP AMMO GONE!!!!


Currently available are:
1) AR magwell, which accepts AR15 mags and any other mags that fit into the AR15.
2) AK magwell, which accepts AK47 mags(no drums)

Upcoming magwells that are coming fairly soon:
1) M14 .308 magwell
2) 45ACP Grease Gun magwell
3) 9mm Sten magwell
4) AK74 5.45x39 magwell

Future expected magwells and special items for the Modular Lower:
1) Duty Pistol magwells in a variety of types(yes, including Glock).
2) Belt Feed System for 5.56 and/or 7.62x39.
3) 22LR 10/22 magwell
4) PPsh/Suomi magwell which will take drums/sticks for 7.62x25 pistol rounds
5) Colt 9mm system SMG magwell for Colt SMG mags
6) Some form of .22WMR magwell for you .22 Magnum lovers



The ones that make me the most happy

2) 45ACP Grease Gun magwell
4) AK74 5.45x39 magwell
2) Belt Feed System for 5.56 and/or 7.62x39
4) PPsh/Suomi magwell which will take drums/sticks for 7.62x25 pistol rounds

this really does seem likes 'gods' gift to rifles!


i am filled with emotions! :lol:

 

[Janq]

Wow, that would add up to be expensive fast.

You dont need a special barrel to be Quick detach?

No the QCB upper is not barrel dependant as per it's design.
It'll accept any and all standard AR aftermarket barrels (!).
See my OT thread link as the whole deal about this product is explained there in detail. This thing is bad ass and designed by two persons of note, not a fly by night outfit.

It is spendy but so is the cost of having two or three rifles as purchased individualy (new), and this allows a user to do more with one than they can with three singular or multiple.
It's not cheap but then stuff like this never is.

- Janq

 

[only mortal]

Currently available are:
1) AR magwell, which accepts AR15 mags and any other mags that fit into the AR15.
2) AK magwell, which accepts AK47 mags(no drums)

Upcoming magwells that are coming fairly soon:
1) M14 .308 magwell
2) 45ACP Grease Gun magwell
3) 9mm Sten magwell
4) AK74 5.45x39 magwell

Future expected magwells and special items for the Modular Lower:
1) Duty Pistol magwells in a variety of types(yes, including Glock).
2) Belt Feed System for 5.56 and/or 7.62x39.
3) 22LR 10/22 magwell
4) PPsh/Suomi magwell which will take drums/sticks for 7.62x25 pistol rounds
5) Colt 9mm system SMG magwell for Colt SMG mags
6) Some form of .22WMR magwell for you .22 Magnum lovers

Stoner would be so proud. Given the modular nature of the AR, I wonder why it has taken so long for a system like this to be developed? Seems like it would have been an easy step to concieve. Anyhoo, it's here now and I suppose that's all that matters.

btw- the belt feed system looks awesome!

 

[fatcat]

Why is it everything fun and cool has to be so damn expensive...