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I purchased a few of these, one to give to my wife. Anyone have any resources on these such as DVD's, books, etc so she can learn how to use the tool effectively?
 

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i have not seen any formal (or informal for that matter) training videos on the use of a kuboton simply because there are few uses. using a kuboton to assist in small join manipulation (e.g. fingers) is hardly ever practical unless YOU get the jump on your victim. as a keychain, it looses a lot of its usability as a striking assist as you have keys dangling out the side of your fist. the only true practical use i have found for one is assisting in pressure point manipulation. they fuckin HURT! and because of there light sturdy and basic construction it allows even a pressure point novice to inflict pain fast. however, 99% of this tools effectiveness is based on the knowledge and application of the user. you cant just grab it and start blindly poking, and thats why i would never suggest a kuboton as a primary defense tool for a female and even most males. people tend to forget that most people would have a snap freak-out reaction in almost any event that would require the use of kuboton (or any self defense tool). thats why i suggest mace/pepper spray to those who cant carry a firearm. just grab it and start spraying and running. even if you catch a pedestrian with the spray its just temporarily uncomfertible. but a kuboton is wholey useless if you cant keep your cool or worse, dont know where to use it. on the plus side it only takes one solid hit in a meridian to cause enough pain for most people to stop dead. i used to carry a black aluminum kuboton but found through sparing that im just more effective with a thumb or index and middle finger.

for me, having two usable hands to defend and attack with is better then one and a small blunt spike. that and it does not have much practical advantage for anyone who has been taught how to strike properly.

your best bet is to find book on pressure points for self defense. or you can ask an acupuncturist for a poster on meridian points. But, for self defense by an untrained individual the key ones are neck, arm pit, kidney, eyes, temple, and i always put the spine in my list for spike weapons. The groin is always a prime spot but not really applicable for this particular weapon, but good in conjunction with the weapon. if your not using a tool the wrist and elbow are great as well. the wrist is really only applicable if you can catch or block a strike by your attacker. i have stopped two violent interactions using this method. also dont be afraid to use more then one. if you can get a hold of a wrist and subdue your attacker, dont let up, use there reduced effectiveness and grab the neck or the start kicking them in the balls.

/cue vulcan death grip references
 

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thats sav! he uses the fuckin keys! i never would have done that..... seems logical. i might buy that tape now. SHIT! i dont have a vcr....
 

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99% of this tools effectiveness is based on the knowledge and application of the user. you cant just grab it and start blindly poking, and thats why i would never suggest a kuboton as a primary defense tool for a female and even most males. people tend to forget that most people would have a snap freak-out reaction in almost any event that would require the use of kuboton (or any self defense tool). thats why i suggest mace/pepper spray to those who cant carry a firearm. just grab it and start spraying and running. even if you catch a pedestrian with the spray its just temporarily uncomfertible. but a kuboton is wholey useless if you cant keep your cool or worse,
What suggestion could you offer me for my wife to carry while she is at work? She does home based therapy for parents of children with special needs. However, company policy strictly dictates what can and can not be carried while she is working.

Prohibited items:
Weapons, firearms, ammunition, swords, knives, stun guns, shock devices, mace, or pepper spray, explosives, fireworks, pyrotechnics, or replicas.

My wife is fairly small, owns a gun (carry permit is not possible) and I’m honestly looking for options. Violent crime seems to be going up in the areas that we use to think were safe and immune to this type of terror.

Perhaps I should just get her a plastic letter opener …
 

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hairspray and a lighter.


honestly, i dont know. anything good is on the list of prohibited items. if she can carry a purse to work i would still carry pepper spray. the question she needs to ask is a little more personal safety worth disciplinary action or loosing her job?

is she worried about her patients or the traveling to patients and normal day to day stuff? because she can leave the spray in the car while she is visiting with patients.
 

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hairspray and a lighter.


honestly, i dont know. anything good is on the list of prohibited items. if she can carry a purse to work i would still carry pepper spray. the question she needs to ask is a little more personal safety worth disciplinary action or loosing her job?

is she worried about her patients or the traveling to patients and normal day to day stuff? because she can leave the spray in the car while she is visiting with patients.
I worry more about this stuff then she does. Having said that, I think she would be in SERIOUS trouble if a special needs kid got ahold of some defensive spray.

So where is a good place to buy MACE online?
 

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i think there are substantial differences between mace and pepper spray. i want to go as far as to say mace is not legal in all states? might want to verify that one.

personally, my own defence is worth the off chance that a kid who is rummaging through my bag finds it and manages to work it. but like i said, if she is not worried about the people in her clients homes she can just leave it in the car.
 

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I carried a Kuboton many years ago. It really isn't that special of a self defense tool. I would rather carry the travel wrench. http://www.kellyworden.com/TWBonusPkgPage.html

The Kuboton is a good pain complaince devise after you have subdoed the attacker, good for get cuffs on people that are still resisting.

Hitting with keys is a pretty effective strike. Don't hold them between your fingers and punch, the keys will tear up your hands
 

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i got my travel wrench today. its nice and light and very durable. but its a bit on the large side. might not work to well in a pocket buy would be fine in a ladys hand bag.
 
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