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I could never afford the $750 it takes to become a life member, though I wanted to. I learned today that they now have a payment plan that is pretty easy...$25 a quarter, until your payments are done.

You too can be part of the group that is the most hated, feared, loathed and despised by anti-gun people all over. :D That just warms my heart, it does!
 

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Who here is NOT an NRA member? We need them now more than ever with whats going to be happeing soon.
 

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Jamz,

Up until about a year ago I long swore I'd not join the NRA for nothing.

Roughly 8 mos. ago I reconsidered it for a couple reasons, largely due to CCW and 'Castle' laws to which I'm very much in favor of.
Last summer in June I joined as a basic member (no magazine).
Today I started thinking it might be to my better personal interests and position to upgrade to life or even benefactor as I could expense it through work. Lord knows I'm member of other groups I like less than the NRA, for work related and political reasons, and they cost as much or more per year.

Give me another month or three and I very well may be just like you, especially if I hear the word gun pass by Nancy Pelosi's lips.

- Henry no longer feels at home be it left, right or even in the middle :|

P.S. - You should repost this over at OT and provide a link to the NRA membership page.I'll post my exact same statement there as well.
Damn the haters and heat, this stuff is important.
 

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burnera said:
whats to be gained [for personal benefit] by joining?
immediate rewards?


[instant gratification camp]
An official NRA Membership ID card - showing your Membership ID number and expiration date or Life Member status. You should carry this card with you at all times.

With all regular memberships, you will get a choice of subscription to American Rifleman, American Hunter, or America's 1st Freedom,

Junior members receive a subscription to Insights,

$10,000 of Accidental Death and Dismemberment coverage at NO COST to you. The plan covers accidents at, or to and from, an NRA event; and accidents that occur during the use of firearms or hunting equipment while hunting. coverage increases to $25,000 for Law Enforcement Officers killed in the line of duty. For more information, including special provisions and limitations, or to designate your beneficiary, click here. No Cost Accident Benefit

$1000 of ArmsCare coverage with your NRA membership. This plan covers insured firearms, air guns, bows and arrows against theft, accidental loss, and damage. For special provisions and limitations of the ArmsCare Plan click here. ArmsCare

New and Enhanced insurance coverages through the NRA Endorsed Insurance Programs. Enroll on-line for Life, Health and Accident and Individual Property and Liability insurance or call Toll free 1-877-NRA-3006 (1-877-672-3006.) New Commercial Property Liability Insurance Program for NRA Affiliated Clubs and Business Alliance Members, visit on-line or call Toll Free 1-877-487-5407.

The most important benefit of NRA membership, however, is the defense of your Constitutional right to keep and bear arms. NRA-ILA tracks the issues and alerts members about legislation involving firearms and hunting at the federal, state and local levels of government. Successful legislative action begins with you -- the individual member. For information regarding legislative action or to become an ILA grassroots volunteer, call 1-800-392-8683.
 

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Janq, I'll post it tomorrow for the day crew.

Hell if nothing else, the American Rifleman magazine is pretty good.

But I really like being part of an organization that is truly grass roots.
 

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Im buying a taurus soon and nice things is they give me a free year of membership

Woot!
 

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Gun Control on the Back Burner

Most of what I've been reading is that the dems will have better things to do than work on gun control right now...but I'm still stocking up within the next few months.


For most Americans, guns are not a political issue. People buy and own guns to protect their families, not to commit crimes. The truth is that even millions of Americans who support and vote for gun control own guns themselves, because deep down they share the basic human need to feel secure in their homes.

The gun control movement has lost momentum in recent years. The Democratic Party has been conspicuously silent on the issue in recent elections because they know it's a political loser. In the midst of declining public support for new gun laws, more and more states have adopted concealed-carry programs. The September 11th terrorist attacks and last year's hurricanes only made matters worse for gun control proponents, as millions of Americans were starkly reminded that we cannot rely on government to protect us from criminals. Gun sales have gone up.

Most supporters of gun rights take no pleasure in this fact, nor do they trumpet it as a political victory over gun control forces. The time has come to stop politicizing gun ownership, and start promoting responsible use of firearms to make America a safer place. Guns are here to stay; the question is whether only criminals will have them.

The media has not been honest in reporting about guns, especially when it comes to statistics about law-abiding individuals who use firearms to prevent or deter crimes. Many of the "assault rifles" vilified by the press are in fact sporting rifles that are no longer available to hunters and outdoorsmen. Of course true military-style fully automatic rifles remain widely available to criminals on the black market.

The gun control debate generally ignores the historical and philosophical underpinnings of the Second amendment. The Second amendment is not about hunting deer or keeping a pistol in your nightstand. It is not about protecting oneself against common criminals. It is about preventing tyranny. The Founders knew that unarmed citizens would never be able to overthrow a tyrannical government as they did. They envisioned government as a servant, not a master, of the American people. The muskets they used against the British Army were the assault rifles of that time. It is practical, rather than alarmist, to understand that unarmed citizens cannot be secure in their freedoms.

It's convenient for gun banners to dismiss this argument by saying, "That could never happen here, this is America." But history shows that only vigilant people can keep government under control. By banning certain weapons today, we may plant the seeds for tyranny to flourish decades from now.

Tortured interpretations of the Second amendment cannot change the fact that both the letter of the amendment itself and the legislative history conclusively show that the Founders intended ordinary citizens to be armed. The notion that the Second amendment confers rights only upon organized state-run militias is preposterous; the amendment is meaningless unless it protects the gun rights of individuals.

Gun control may have faded as a political issue, but the mentality that Washington knows best-- and that certain constitutional rights are anachronisms-- is alive and well. Look for gun control advocates to bide their time and look for new ways to resurrect the issue in 2008 and beyond
 

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Gun Owners' SHOPPING List!

The Michael Bane Blog said:
Wednesday, November 08, 2006
Gun Owners' SHOPPING List!
From CNS News:

Good Night for Gun Control Advocates

(CNSNews.com) - The nation's leading gun control group called Tuesday "a very good night for all of us who want to do something to reduce gun violence in America."

Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, noted that in key races throughout the nation, "more and more supporters of sensible gun laws" were winning.

The Brady Campaign was particularly pleased that voters in Maryland chose Democrat Ben Cardin for the U.S. Senate and Martin O'Malley for governor, thereby rejecting candidates endorsed by the National Rifle Association...

While I have my fingers crossed that Dave Kopel's analysis on the state of the Second Amendment is spot on, I am far less sanguine about the operational strategy of Brady and the Violence Policy Center, who will be pulling the strings on our new Speaker of the House, Daniel-Ortega-in-a-Skirt. Remember, our enemies' strategy could always be summed up as "get what you can get."

Granted, the baby Dems who were elected on their Guns-R-Us platform probably won't support the whole Brady agenda right off the bat, I think most of them won't have the juice — or the balls — to stand against the Pelosi-Schumer-DiFi juggernaut, which has to be able to toss some red meat to the antigunners. I tend to agree with commenter Tim Perkins that we'll see the first antigun initiatives as soon as the Dems are seated. Don't worry; they'll be simple "common sense" measures that even Republicans can agree with, or have said they'll support in the past.

Hmmmmmmmm...what fits that bill?

Accordingly, here's my SHOPPING LIST FOR GUNOWNERS:

1) AR-15 platform rifle...if you don't have one, I suggest that you max out the Visa, borrow from the kids' college fund, sell a grandchild or get a job mowing lawns until you hustle up the bucks to buy one. I believe there will be a new AWB — probably sooner than later — it will pass the Dem Senate and House and will be signed by the defeated, deflated President. Hopefully, our gun lobby can blunt the worst provisions, but remember that the Brady weasels have had a decade to draft and redraft a loophole-free AWB. This is the easiest piece of red meat for the ultraleft Dems to throw to the faithful, because they point to the nudge-nudge, wink-wink say-no-more Republicans who gave lip-service to a new AWB knowing they'd never have to vote on it.

2) Magazines, magazines and more magazines...I would suspect that one of the first loopholes eliminated in the new, improved AWB will be those involving magazines with capacities larger than 10 rounds. Don't be surprised to see that "10 rounds" shrink to "5 rounds," and harsher penalties for selling magazine parts that could be converted into standard capacity magazines.

3) .50 BMG rifles...this is another area in which the baby conservative Dems and the dispirited Republican survivors can cave on and not get too clobbered by their largely clueless constituencies. Even in an era of Republican "control," the antis were very successful in demonizing the Big 50, and it's only Ronnie Barrett's relationship with the NRA that kept the bulk of the gun lobby from shrugging their shoulders.

4) AKs and the much-maligned SKSs...as Mary Pickford was once "told" in a silent movie when presented with a doll, "Love it quick; you ain't gonna have it long!"
Be prepared to hear, "You don't hunt deer with a Russian assault rifle" enough to make you puke 7.62 X 39, which is about the only way you're going to get the ammo.

5) "Military" ammo...that .223, .308, 9mm and the various metric calibers. Mostly because the minute a new AWB is introduced, ammo prices are going to jump. Plus, you can never be sure when pieces of "Brady II" are going to be unearthed and thrown into the mix, and one of the kenote provisions of Brady II — which the Republican takeover of 1994 prevented — was requiring an "arsenal license" for possession of more than 1000 rounds of ammo or components thereof. I mean, who needs 1000 primers, anyway?

Yeah, I'll readily agree that I'm paranoid, but every time someone tells me not to worry I feel a broomstick sneaking up on my hind parts. How many of you got "caught out" when the last Ban went in? How many of you — us — paid usurious prices for maagzine "replacement tubes" for those hi-caps we thoughlessly drove over in our Hummers? Hmmmmmmmm?

posted by Michael Bane at 5:45 PM

http://michaelbane.blogspot.com/2006/11/gun-owners-shopping-list.html
- Janq
 

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Holy shit..

over 1000 rounds would be ilegal? Shit! I got more than that rolling around on the floor of my truck!
 

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I hear you Janq...and you are right...I was just trying not to freak myself out too much. I'm really not looking forward to the next few years.
 

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Yeah, having to count on Bush to be "republican" enough and "freedom loving" enough to veto a new AWB is like counting on crossing your fingers so you don't get the GF pregnant.
 

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He vetoed the other one before election, he has nothing to lose now so I know he would not let it pass.
 

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He vetoed the other one before election, he has nothing to lose now so I know he would not let it pass.
More likely Pelosi & Co. will blackmail him into doing so.
They can't take down Bush or Cheney for war related crimes because they have innoculated themselves just over 4 weeks ago in anticipation of this shift. But that does not extend too far down or out amongst Bush Corp. staff and cohorts. As well they cannot make an effot to impeach him without suffering collateral damage in the form of a '08 revenge loss.
If I were Pelosi I'd dig up dirt and a case on someone that is lower level but meaningful who could bring shame & embarassment on to Bush's legacy which at this stage isall that would be important to him seeing as he's otherwise a lame duck. Present that first and then say it can all go away/be ignored IF he does not give them any static on a new AWB featuring _everything_ they want. Of course they'll throw out some ridiculous stuff that they know they, Pelosi & Co., can do without just to appear 'bipartisan' but ont he whole they'll have their cake and eat it too.

If I were a politico thats how I'd play it as it allows everyone to save face and appear to be 'good guys' on the whole, even Bush as he'd spin it as being a homeland security item to prevent 'terrorists' from harming us in our homes, at work, or children in their schools. Do not be fooled Bush Corp. is not on 'our' side and never has been be you democrat, repoblican, or 'neo-con'.

When, not if, an AWB comes along I'm pretty much decided that I would then activate the Ducman Class III/NFA plan which he very kindly detailed in extreme at OT two years ago. Check the archives, it's still there and very relevant. Myself as I own a business I can run purchases and 'ownership' against it and be relatively fine. For most others though who are in more normal/average situations you very much will want to investigate the Ducman plan as it could be the only thing between you and a 5 rd. magazine or purchasing an AR, AK, or ammo to feed it.

The sky is not falling, yet...

- Janq doesn't much care for chicken

P.S. - Nevermind.
As a public service I'll search for it and bump that thread at OT as well as repost his detail here for Gunatics many of whom weren't around when he put the info together.

P.P.S. - After much struggling I found what I'd had in mind and what do you know, it wasn't posted by Ducman but by me. :lol:!
Specifically it's a crosspost from a third party via SigForum toward a thread where Duc and I had been discussing Class 3/NFA and SBR purchasing. Anyway I'll start a new thread on this in the Newbie zone and sticky it.
 

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fatcat said:
Holy shit..

over 1000 rounds would be ilegal? Shit! I got more than that rolling around on the floor of my truck!
Ditto.
As of a big buy last weekend I've got nearly 1.8K rounds of .45 ACP and .22LR stored in a drybox in my basement today right now. OMG the horror!
I'm going to buy more of both soon while stuff is still relatively affordable locally.
As well I might as well start buying primer and bullets because I definitely will have to start reloading if ammo prices jump any further. If stuff stays same then there is no harm as it's not like I can't use it anyway so it's win win.
Also magazines, I don't know what mags to buy as I own nothing but 1911s.
Buy AR mags just to have and hold maybe. Some Glock mags as well (?).

Meh.

- Janq
 
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