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So I just got this shotgun for my birthday!!! Used to be my dad's and it is in GREAT shape. I am working to get some pictures, just gotta find the time when my anti-roommate isn't around!

Anyone know much about them, i have looked all over and not finding much info on them. I would be interested in a synthetic stock to put on it for shooting. I don't want to risk messing up the wood...

Anyways...just thought I would share. Shot it for the first time today!! I am a very happy person!!!
 

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They are sweet shooters but they were plagued with two issues.

1. The bolt handle tends to fall out, so watch it.

2. There was a serious metallurgy problem with the action bars on the design. They were made of bad metal and had a tendancy to break one or both of them, rendering the gun unreliable. There are some parts out there, but they cost an arm and a leg. Some people have had mixed results trying to weld them.

As for synthetic, they were made in the pre synthetic days for the most part, and as Ithaca was a more expensive gun maker, wood was more popular.
 

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Got some Pics!!

Hey guys. As promised I took some pictures of the Ithica today. Sorry it took me so long to get them up here, what can I say...I was lazy.

I got out shooting this past weekend. Brought this along. All I had were target loads, but it went bang! I didn't have any clays or anything, but it was fun none the less.

Enjoy!











It even works!! :lol:


There is some light scratching on the stock. Nothing too deep though. I can probably fix it up.


It's shiny, I promise. Hard shot to get. As you can see from my frisbee-bar chair configuration. Any suggestions??


That's it for now, I am planning on bringing the camera the next time i go and trying to get some shots. We'll see how that goes... :lol:
 

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It looks real nice. Anyone have any suggestions about fixing the scratches on the stock.

I wanna try to do something. I was thinking sanding it with like 400 grit and refinishing it. Is that a good idea or no?
 

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Usually you need to strip all the finish off. The problem there is with grip caps. I cant remember if the 51 has a cover over teh grip cap screw.

I usually strip with a chemical stripper and then refinish with either a oil based varnish like Tru Oil, or just with some nice Tung Oil for a more traditional non glossy finish.

If you use a varnish the trick is to keep it out of the checkering.
 

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I will check it out, but I don't think there is a cover on the screw...if we are talking about the same thing.

If I were to do this I should probably do the same thing to the fore-grip as well? Keep them both looking the same...I might not even bother, I've yet to decide if it bothers me enough.
 

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A classic oil finish won't hurt the checkering. You can get a nice satin finish with just plain old boiled linseed oil or tung oil. It will take multiple applications and some hand rubbing. Just rub the oil in with your bare hands until it gets warm from the friction, then wipe with a lint free cloth and put the rifle away. Repeat once a day or so, occasionally going over the stock with some 0000 steel wool.

Beware of Formsby's brand "Tung Oil", which is actually a varnish like Tru Oil. It gives a nice finish, but it's not actually oil!

This place has plenty of ideas: http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/forum/view/id/101
 

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I have used the Formby's and Tru Oil, and the above post is right, it is a varnish.

I recommend Tung Oil, as it dries much better and faster than any linseed oil.

Brownells.com has a wide variety of oil finishes and stains. I have seen some good results from Danish oil as well on a few AKs and SKS guns.
 

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If Ithaca would have caught the issue with metallurgy, I feel this gun would have been a serious competitor to the Remington 1100. I like them better than the Remingtons to be honest, but I have always passed them up because of the action bar issue.

There has been some rumors of the new owners of Ithaca playing with the idea of resurrecting the 51.

This of course is not a new problem, the Super X1 had similar issues, which Winchester and Browning improved upon on the Super X2 and Browning Gold.
 

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I have heard about this issue. Is there anything I should be watching for. I got this to be a shooter and want to make sure I am safe to continue shooting it. I have put probably 25 shells through it with no issues. I was looking to start shooting trap/skeet.

Where should I be looking for wear?
 

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Check for cracks in the action bars when you take it down.

If they break it wont hurt you, the gun will just stop working.

Parts can be found, but it could cost you 150-200 bucks.

You might be able to get a good smith to weld them, but if the metal is bad, it might just break somewhere else.

If you shoot lighter trap type loads, it would help keep it running longer if its one of the ones prone to busting.
 

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The parts you said you can find. Do they have the same issue? I think I will most likely only be sending target load through it, as I don't need any more for trap.

Good to know no harm could come to me if it were to break. Make me fell better shooting it, let alone letting friends shoot it!
 

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You just dont know if they will bust or not. They are all used or backstocked parts Ithaca had on hand when production ended.

Chances are that if the gun already had a decent round count through it, it would be ok, but you never know.

After the Model 51 went out, they only made a 10ga for themselves. All other Ithaca autos were made for them by SKB of Japan.
 

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I don't have the tooling to make it myself...but it doesn't look too complicated. I will probably just keep it as is and if something should happen then I will cross that bridge when/if it comes.
 

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I am sure it could be done, but to have it done would be expensive.

Like I said, it was a shame as it was a nice shooting design.
 
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