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Info?: New model Mossberg shotguns

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These things look nice, does anybody have any first hand eperience or opinions toward any one of the following?

930 Autoloader

835® Ulti-Mag® Tactical Turkey™ Hunting Series

535 ATS™ All-Terrain Shotgun

- Janq
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Ducman said:
Pump shotguns are excempt from the MA AWB and the large capacity laws
There may be wildlife laws regarding capacity limits... don't know those laws
Yep, that's what I understood and thought.
Limits toward capacity are five rounds with exception of waterfowl which is limited to three. I graduated from the MA waterfowl ed. class two weeks ago and aced with a 100% the laws and regs portion of the test, which amongst other things covered this stuff.

So to double check myself I called GOAL a moment ago and spoke with the most excellent resource they have their; 'Nancy'. This lady rocks!

The result of that conversation was lengthy to the point that even she for a moment was confused.
I'm busy with work right now but will come back tonight and explain things in detail,which sadly due to confusing MA law was/is required.

The dude and policy at Dick's was/is right and wrong at the same time (!).

- Janq is getting real tired of this MA gun law crap

So I knocked off from work early and wen to Dick's to look at their stock...

I saw the 835 Ulti-Mag Thumbhole first and it felt in my hand and to my shoulder to be perfect. It just fit. The safety being up high was fine for me I could reach it with my thumb and over lap it. Engaging/disengaging it while still gripping the arm was not a problem for me. It has an adjustable rear sight on the ventilation rib with a fixed front. Both are fiber optic Tru-Glo knockoffs with the rear being read and the front green.
I liked this gun right off the bat.

Dude then suggested the Benelli Nova which in 24" in Advanced 'Hardwood' camo (same as the Mossburg) is on sale at $249 marked down from $479!!!! The reason being Benelli is dumping this shorter barrel model in lieu of the now $499 26" model.
He said it's a better constructed receiver made of aluminum rather than stamped steel thus being lighter to carry. As well it has a Benelli unique 'shell stop' feature allowing for a round to be chambered manually without having to dump shells from the magazine. This was actually pretty neat and would be handy to have when wishing to switch from one round type to another on the fly with an otherwise loaded magazine.
I didn't though like it's sights which are an inline rear bead and front red fiber optic. This seemd like a totally odd setup for me. He noted that I could add with ease an adjustable rear fiber sight like on the Mossburg for little cost.
Then I went to shoulder it and it didn't feel perfect. It felt off relative to the Mossburg but I couldn't tell where or why. The length of pull on both are the same. Also the balance of the Mossburg felt better for me than the Benelli albeit I am a complete shotgun noob. I don't know dick about buying a shotgun. Oh, and the Benelli is availbkle with an optional mercury based recoil reducer built into the stock.
Speaking of the stock it does not appear to be interchangeable for a pistol grip. It is one piece from stock to the receiver frame. The guy at the store did not know this, amongst a few other things nor the law.

He then suggested Remington because he hunts pheasant and his 870 has always worked well for him. Meh! Great but what about other options? He had no real relevant experience to that end.
We reviewed the Remington options and they all are pretty much more expensive than the Mossburgs or offer less in features for the same price.

I wound up walking out with a Mossburg 'Buyers Guide' which they were giving out on the front counter ans his last copy of the _VERY_ nice and slick and well put together from a marketing stand point BenelliUSA 'Master Catalog'.
This thing is nice as hell detailing out every model they offer and going into great detail toward their features. So much so that now I'm like crap back to square 1, the current Benellis are looking nice as hell and feture laden. The MSRP rates are indicated too which makes the job of eliminating stuff thankfully easy.
The Mossburg guide on the other hand is good too but from a different angle. They feature their product amongst a bunch of ads and articles about the products as used a field. I'm going to scour this tonight cover to cover.

I don't know what to do or think now.
The Benelli is a good price and dude said they had four go on sale and within the last two weeks the other three went quickly. This is the last one.
But the other Benelli products are looking swell and for the price which I was walling to pay to start at $500 and less they have a good sized range of options.

I just don't want buyers remorse. As well I wish I could try before I buy and I wish I could talk to people who actually have used a range of products in the field rather than just buying by name and/or going with Remington because well 33% of everyone else does.

- Janq
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One of the clubs that I belong to is having an open house this Sunday.
Just about every type of shooting with be going on, with guns for people to try.
It might be a good chance to shoot different shotguns. - Open House Flier2007.pdf
For the purpose you stated any of the guns you've looked at are good choices. They're reliable guns so it's pretty much personal preference.

Based on your report from Dicks I would suggest the mossy. You say you're a shotgun NOOB but you also stated IMHO the most important thing in selecting a shotty, the fit. You said the mossy felt and fit perfect. Shotty's are point and shoot guns and it's a lot easier to hit where you want when the gun fits. So since the saftey isn't a problem for you I would go with it.

i like mossy for the same reason, i've handled about every off-the-shelf shotgun out there and mosy's just plain fit me the best.
Damn it Duc!!!!

I wish you had posted about this a month ago.
That would be damn awesome and I'd love to go and bring the whole family.

But I've got two problems...
I've over extended my away from home privileges thanks to all the various courses and classes I've been taking and then the 3 day all day course at S&W was over the top. Honestly I'm surprised I got away with that for so little resistance, even for me.

Also I've got people coming here this weekend to help me clear and gut to the studs a room and then completely redo it in drywall. We're scheduled to begin work morn to eve Sat with spill over into Sun. :(

I'm going to forward the flyer to Mrs. Janq and see if I can generate some 'family fun' interest.
The unknown though is how long it might take for the project tomorrow.
I'll call you direct Sat. evening/night if it looks like I can make it.

Damn this would be excellent and useful in more ways than one!

- Janq
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