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I know exactly what to say.
He is a fucking moron for thinking that people are actually dumb enough to buy it. Yes, we do have our idiots in this country. So does the UK. So does Russia. So does the Congo. Big fucking deal.
He thinks that because he shows a few minutes of people that are more concerned with making enough money to pay their bills than watching current events, or people who ditched 3rd grade geometry, that we ALL are idiots.
The fact that he can take a handfull of people (not even a handfull, but a select few that he uses the media to make it seem like that is our whole country) and ASS-U-ME that people are stupid enough to buy it shows several characteristics about him, including but not limited to: stupidity; apathetic behavior; lack of patriotism (details below); blind faith.
Now, when I say he lacks patriotism, I mean it. If someone is truely proud, beyond a shadow of a doubt, then they want to let others know. Now, why is another discussion, but we'll do that later. So, he lacks patriotism. Why? He tries to make a country look more worse off than hist so that he can be high and mighty. That means that he can't really feel good about where he comes from if he places both countries on the same pedistal.
If he sees this, I hope for him to pay me a visit. My address is 5641 Cathy Lane, Cypress, CA, 90630. I'm usually home between the hours of 3:00 AM and 9:00 AM.
I'll be waiting.
He is a fucking moron for thinking that people are actually dumb enough to buy it. Yes, we do have our idiots in this country. So does the UK. So does Russia. So does the Congo. Big fucking deal.
He thinks that because he shows a few minutes of people that are more concerned with making enough money to pay their bills than watching current events, or people who ditched 3rd grade geometry, that we ALL are idiots.
The fact that he can take a handfull of people (not even a handfull, but a select few that he uses the media to make it seem like that is our whole country) and ASS-U-ME that people are stupid enough to buy it shows several characteristics about him, including but not limited to: stupidity; apathetic behavior; lack of patriotism (details below); blind faith.
Now, when I say he lacks patriotism, I mean it. If someone is truely proud, beyond a shadow of a doubt, then they want to let others know. Now, why is another discussion, but we'll do that later. So, he lacks patriotism. Why? He tries to make a country look more worse off than hist so that he can be high and mighty. That means that he can't really feel good about where he comes from if he places both countries on the same pedistal.
If he sees this, I hope for him to pay me a visit. My address is 5641 Cathy Lane, Cypress, CA, 90630. I'm usually home between the hours of 3:00 AM and 9:00 AM.
I'll be waiting.
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I knew the answers to all of those and my first country to come to mind was Uruguay, which is in South America.
Those were not hard at all.
Not at all but even so even as this was meant to be comedy, Jay Leno does this on his show all the time and has been doing so for decades, it does show that alot of people upon being asked a random general knowledge question are not all that knowledgeable.
At my house my wife and I had this happen famously with our neighbor and playgroup mom last year who has a masters in social work and is learned and well read in philosophy but upon it coming up in conversation had no idea who Donald Rumsfeld, Condoleeza Rice, or Colin Powell was. Her excuse, she doesn't watch the news or read the paper. But she did vote for Kerry! Her counter statement not mine.
My wife and I did not laugh because it's totally not funny, though for weeks thereafter we wondered between us damn what the hell else does the average random person not know? Since that episode last winter we've come to find out again in random conversations that our neighbor doesn't know much of anything beyond her specific circle of interest/work in social work and buddhism. For example we found out last spring that she did not know the Taurus wagon she drives was not made as she'd thought by General Motors.
I kid you not she said that, my car is by GM.
She drives her car every damn day to work and playgroup events. It says 'Ford' on the steering wheel.
- Janq is of the mind from walking around experiences that calculators, online information crutches such as 'Google' and 'Answers.com', and a national attitude of apathy is making average Americans dumber & less knowledgeable on the whole...especially so amongst my own and the younger generation
Those were not hard at all.
Not at all but even so even as this was meant to be comedy, Jay Leno does this on his show all the time and has been doing so for decades, it does show that alot of people upon being asked a random general knowledge question are not all that knowledgeable.
At my house my wife and I had this happen famously with our neighbor and playgroup mom last year who has a masters in social work and is learned and well read in philosophy but upon it coming up in conversation had no idea who Donald Rumsfeld, Condoleeza Rice, or Colin Powell was. Her excuse, she doesn't watch the news or read the paper. But she did vote for Kerry! Her counter statement not mine.
My wife and I did not laugh because it's totally not funny, though for weeks thereafter we wondered between us damn what the hell else does the average random person not know? Since that episode last winter we've come to find out again in random conversations that our neighbor doesn't know much of anything beyond her specific circle of interest/work in social work and buddhism. For example we found out last spring that she did not know the Taurus wagon she drives was not made as she'd thought by General Motors.
I kid you not she said that, my car is by GM.
She drives her car every damn day to work and playgroup events. It says 'Ford' on the steering wheel.
- Janq is of the mind from walking around experiences that calculators, online information crutches such as 'Google' and 'Answers.com', and a national attitude of apathy is making average Americans dumber & less knowledgeable on the whole...especially so amongst my own and the younger generation
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meh, i was a google kid. i dont think i wrote an essay or paper my entire high school career. everything was cut and pasted, paragraphs at a time, but i know the answer to all those questions.
although ill admit the first country i thought of that starts with a U is the US OF A. not anything exotic like, Uruguay.
although ill admit the first country i thought of that starts with a U is the US OF A. not anything exotic like, Uruguay.
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NN,
I grew up with libraries and a circa '71 set of Funk & Wagnalls encylopaedia (sic) that my grandmother had bought for me after I was born. I read every book of that set (IIRC it was 18 books total) cover to cover multiple times up to and through college, along with my parents college books and any other book and newspaper I could get my hands on. We had a globe too that I'd asked for my 7th birthday that I referenced many times and is the reason why I know the continent of Australia is not the country of 'Korea'.
For the longest I never understood why folk at OT would say/suppose I looked crap up on and/or am powered by Google.
Then I came to discover that now days that is what people and kids my age and younger largely do and source for their 'knowledge', which to me was a completely foreign concept/idea. As foreign tome as it seems to them for one to spend hours in a library or their room reading actual books or learning & remembering/memorizing stuff for real.
I wonder how this paradigm change will affect people through the coming generations.
BTW I sent this link to some friends, my wife, and my father inlaw.
15 minutes ago my soon to be 78 yrs. old father inlaw wrote back; "the second one for me was Uganda ... this video is not surprising; we're becoming a country of not being able to see too far beyond our bellybuttons".
FWIW Uruguay is a major country and member of the UN like say New Zealand or Canadialand.
For general info and knowledge here is there reference in the CIA 'Fact Book' which in the day before the internets I used to read & study at my local library because it was fascinating stuff and had handy for school info to know; https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/uy.html
- Janq
I grew up with libraries and a circa '71 set of Funk & Wagnalls encylopaedia (sic) that my grandmother had bought for me after I was born. I read every book of that set (IIRC it was 18 books total) cover to cover multiple times up to and through college, along with my parents college books and any other book and newspaper I could get my hands on. We had a globe too that I'd asked for my 7th birthday that I referenced many times and is the reason why I know the continent of Australia is not the country of 'Korea'.
For the longest I never understood why folk at OT would say/suppose I looked crap up on and/or am powered by Google.
Then I came to discover that now days that is what people and kids my age and younger largely do and source for their 'knowledge', which to me was a completely foreign concept/idea. As foreign tome as it seems to them for one to spend hours in a library or their room reading actual books or learning & remembering/memorizing stuff for real.
I wonder how this paradigm change will affect people through the coming generations.
BTW I sent this link to some friends, my wife, and my father inlaw.
15 minutes ago my soon to be 78 yrs. old father inlaw wrote back; "the second one for me was Uganda ... this video is not surprising; we're becoming a country of not being able to see too far beyond our bellybuttons".
FWIW Uruguay is a major country and member of the UN like say New Zealand or Canadialand.
For general info and knowledge here is there reference in the CIA 'Fact Book' which in the day before the internets I used to read & study at my local library because it was fascinating stuff and had handy for school info to know; https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/uy.html
- Janq
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in HS, i sat at a computer in the library. i dont think once did i ever intentially speak with a librarian, or refer to a book on the shelves unless required for the lesion.Janq said:NN,
I grew up with libraries and a circa '71 set of Funk & Wagnalls encylopaedia (sic) that my grandmother had bought for me after I was born. I read every book of that set (IIRC it was 18 books total) cover to cover multiple times up to and through college, along with my parents college books and any other book and newspaper I could get my hands on. We had a globe too that I'd asked for my 7th birthday that I referenced many times and is the reason why I know the continent of Australia is not the country of 'Korea'.
it depends how you look at it. somoene of my generation might view reading books for information as limiting. your restricting yourself to a vastly limited number of sources. even assuming you could procure every book on a particular subject, it would still be less information then what the net could provide.
on the flip side of that same coin however, i hear the common rebuttle being that the information on the net is vastly less qualified then information in books. "anyone can post any trash they want on the net". Thats the issue. lots of your common google resurches grab the first on-topic link for there query and take it as absolute. a quick answer to a quick inquiry, instead of doing research and compiling information from multiple sources, and then tracking those sources.
on that same note however the same could be said about books. it doesnt take a qualified rocket scientist to produce bound paper that talks about rocket science. there is also the fact that millions of books on a particular subject could simple be out dated.
my personal view is that the information provided by the net is superior. far superior in fact. not only do you have access to most, if not all the information available in your books, you also get constant cross examination from everyone. when you buy a book you dont get the opinions of 1000 people who have read the book with it. i feel that the internet is the ultimate editor. bad information will continually diminish as its falsehoods are found out by the people who read it.
however, the information itself is not nearly as important as the perspective of the individual consuming it. you can twist facts and events in many ways to give an illusion. context is king.
your father in law is seeing it plain as day, im afraid. our overwatchers are playing there hand well and achieving exactly what they want. a subservient uneducated mass that makes them money.
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NN - hits nail on head
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