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As featured in WorldNetDaily:

How gun control trades life for death

Posted: April 4, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Bob Allen

His name is Charles.

Her name was Clara.

Was. Past tense.

The first and last time Charles saw Clara alive, she was being dragged by her hair through the CNN Center in Atlanta. Clara's tormentor ordered Charles out of the way, and instead of standing his ground to defend an obviously distressed woman, he obeyed the thug's order and let them pass.

Charles' choice was to go in search of a guard instead of personally coming to the woman's aid, and the tragic result is that Clara is now dead.

Going to find "help" turned out to be no help at all.

Could Charles have saved Clara? It's possible he could not. Perhaps Charles would have also been a victim. We can never be sure.

What we do know is that Charles obeyed a thug – refused to defend the defenseless – and two people are now dead.

What would you have done?

What would I have done?

There was a time when a majority of American men would almost surely have come to Clara's aid. They believed in an ethic that said, "Rescue those who are being taken away to death; hold back those who are stumbling to the slaughter." (Proverbs 24:11)

It was a day when men, recognizing the reality of evil, carried weapons that enabled them to stand in the gap for those being unjustly tormented and threatened. Virtually any man on the street could come to the aid of a victim like Clara.

That was then; this is now.

Charles is probably a good, law-abiding citizen of modern America. Therefore he knows all too well he cannot carry a weapon to defend people like Clara without asking permission of the government.

Long past are the days of George Tucker, a man wounded twice in America's Revolutionary War, who wrote: The right of self-defense is the first law of nature: in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Wherever … the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction."

Or again, William Rawle, appointed as a U.S. attorney by President George Washington: "No clause in the Constitution could by any rule of construction, be conceived to give the Congress a power to disarm the people. A flagitious attempt could only be made under some general pretense by a state legislature. But if, in any blind pursuit of inordinate power, either [state or federal government] should attempt it, [the Second] Amendment may be appealed to as a restraint on both."

Most Americans today probably couldn't even imagine living when the laws in Virginia made men subject to prosecution for NOT carrying their weapons with them at all times, even (gasp!) being specifically mandated to bring them to church!

Yes, we're a long way from those days, and I wonder if perhaps we've so lost the ability to govern ourselves that we deserve to be helpless in the face of evil.

Yet, as soon as I write that, I come back to a simple truth: Clara didn't deserve to die. She had a perfect right to expect someone – anyone – with a sense of decency and courage to come to her aid in time of need.

Charles did not. No one else did.

We don't have to guess what George Tucker, William Rawle and the other Founding Fathers would say about our "gun control" laws that restrain only the law-abiding.

All we have to do is read their writings.

And perhaps ponder this horrible truth: Clara is dead.

The feature can be found at; http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55026

- Janq

Personal opinion: Contrary to this article I personally do not believe that gun control in itself is the cause, it's more of an effect.
It seems to me that people,male and female, are these days being made of a stuff that is softer and less self determined than those of our grandfathers and their grandfathers before them. As a result men of today and our children of tomorrow largely have the constitution of a jelly bean and as a result both liberals and conservatives set into play rules, regs, and laws that effectively hamstring and dilute us all. This begins at the youngest of ages where our children are being left to be trained up by persons other than ourselves and told to implicitly trust people quasi-familiar or even completely strange to us and to ignore if not leave undeveloped our own inherent human animal sense toward danger & trouble. You know, that gut feeling that shit just ain't right. Men are discouraged to develop their own sense of personal internal strength while women are give conflicting information and examples toward feminine strength and supplication toward males.
We are as we are not by accident and our laws have come to be what and wher they are because thats waht we want and desire, an absolution from personal responsibility and involvement.
I worry for our America and my own children.
 

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Things like this sometimes make me want to be involved in an event like this so I can prove to myself and my community/state/country that people still have balls. So many times I find my own self, self restricting my talk on these serious business int4rnets, at the risk of being ridiculed or shunned at my actions.

Damnit people fucking stand up. Put your damned backbone to use instead of being all noodly shits. I don't even or can't even call our nation feminized. As I heard this week on a radio show, someone mentioned that the term feminization in regard to being wimpy is wrong. Woman aren't wimps, they're vicious in the face of competition and adversity.

John Wayne, where are you?
 

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"Live free or die."
 

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It's true, and agreed 'feminized' is/would be a misnomer along the lines of the term 'common sense' which is a sense that is not at all common.

I cannot imagine seeing a coworker, even one I did not know, being grabbed by her hair and dragged through a workplace building and not making a decision to get involved to her defense. Same with that bar attack case from a few weeks back.
I'm not a tough guy nor am I Captian Save-A-Ho, but I do know there is a time and a place where it is ones own personal and civic rsponsibility to stand up and act. I'd hope someone would do same for my wife, daughter, sister,or mother. :|

John Wayne, Henry Ford, 'Shane', Lee Marvin and even Charlie Bronson are all dead.

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"I'm looking for a Wesley Snipes type." - Bowfinger
 

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Petrus said:
"Live free or die."

Is that an advertisement for the newest Die Hard movie?
 

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"Live Free or Die" is the official motto of New Hampshire. on their license plates and everything.


Janq already knows what im gana say about this deplorable shit. its the same thing i said about the bar, and the woman being stabbed to death in broad day light in a parking lot.

granted, i dont know the exact circumstances. JUST because a woman is being dragged to her death does not necessarily mean im going to instantly put my life on the line for her. ill be honest, if i know its a hopeless endevour, sorry. self preservation is a bitch. but im certainly not going to assume the fetal position or go running if i know their is even the smallest chance of helping.
 

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It is also the title for the new Die Hard movie. Coincidence? I think not.

Case solved.
 

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He's right, it is the working title for the new Die Hard movie...'Live Free or Die Hard'.
They had a thing about it on CNN yesterday.

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Thats what they said on CNN yesterday, it was printed as such onscreen.
I don't know the details and all as I had the TV on mute while I was talking on the phone working.
The new/latest movie is due to be called that name.

I wasn't paying it much mind as frankly I didn't care about it in so far as information is concerned.
I'd just happened to see it yesterday, onscreen, and then boom here it is coming up again today.

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DJ9,

As an FYI I went to see Grindhouse last night and the first movie preview featured was titled; "Live Free or Die Hard" starring Bruce Willis.
It looks to be bad ass!

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Excellent. Unfortunately there isn't a theater within 40 miles of me that is playing Grindhouse...

How'd Bruce look? He's gotta be pushing his mid 50s eh?
 

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He looked pretty good in Grindhouse though really all you see is his head.
It's a shame you have no theater near by playing it. :(

BTW I forgot to mention the new Die Hard will be based in D.C. as per the trailer.

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