[brucelee]

Her and I have been bashing these Islamic fanatics on one of the middle eastern muslim groups together (I met her in that group). Her values seemed sound and she seemed like a cool person, so I figure I'd add her as a friend... I get this as a reply:



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: e-michelle
Date: Feb 8, 2006 9:54 AM

id love to add you but as weird as it sounds i truly hate/cant stand guns?

is that reasonable?



----------------- My reply-----------------
HA!

Guns dont kill people, people kill people. So with your reasoning you shouldnt be able to add people, because after all people are the evil ones that create machines that kill.

Perhaps you should re-evaluate you priorities and methods of thinking, Michelle.


-Daniel

 

[jamz]

If she lets a phobia rule her life, it's her problem, not yours

 

[iownaspec]

umm guns are bad mmmkay.

 

[brucelee]

hahhaha... fists are bad too... especially when you don't wipe it off after you're done fisting some nasty chick in the ass.


(did I say that outloud?)

 

[Adler]

If a criminal cant kill you with a gun...he will use a knife. No knife???? well then a bat or crow bar. The deal is that if you didnt have guns in civilian hands then only criminals would have them, and if they never existed in the first place well you would still have people running around killing wioth blades and crossbows.


Guns are a tool only...merely a means to an end. It is the person who decides the fate of the gun..not the gun itself.

I personally feel safer knowing that if some asshole breaks into my house(again) and my wife is home alone she can defend herself against a person who otherwise would be able to overpower her. Afterall it was samuel colt that truly made man equal.

 

[Damn Yankee]

Brucelee let us know what she thinks of that!

 

[Janq]

Bruce,

Don't sweat it.

Mrs. Janq is of the same mind and one of those OMG!1! guns are bad and bad people want guns types.
She hates that I carry and says it's "silly" and "can only lead to trouble".
Do you love the ironing or what? :sigh:

Some folks will never ever understand or open their minds no matter how much factual information and FBI stats you show them.
I used to think and assume stuff about CCW'rs and have in years argued against as much. Then I was challeneged by a forgotten OTter in a thread ages ago (it might have been TurismoLou) to look into actual crime stats as reltaive to legally licensed gun owners (CCW or not) and compare that to crime overall. It took some time to find this info but in doing so I saw that with simple math my thoughts, assumptions and personal experiences with guns as related to crime did not in fact match up anywhere near to real and actual crimes as committed by licensed owners never mind the less than 1% of gun crimes committed by CCW types. From that point forward (spring '05) my mindset changed and now I'm pro-CCW albeit still with some degree of semi-irrational trepidation buffered though by numerical & statistical facts rather than assumptions.

- Janq

"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud

 

[jamz]

Right on, Janq!

And this is exactly why it pays off to be patient, understanding and persistent with anti gun and anti CCW types. All it takes is some careful thought about the subject, and there is no logical or reasonable reason to deny CCW or other 2nd amendment items anywhere.

All it takes is thinking about it hard enough, and most people don't want to do that, they're more comfortable letting their emotions (primarily fear) make decisions for them.

 

[Mikkito]

I actually hate guns. It's a shame there's at least 4 loaded weapons without my reach at any moment while I'm home.

(yeah, I'm kidding about hating guns)

 

[Adler]

I find that most people are neutral or hate guns until they go out, shoot them, and realize just how friggin fun it is. I have my spouse hooked on Shotgun shooting now.

 

[bassplayrr]

I find that most people are neutral or hate guns until they go out, shoot them, and realize just how friggin fun it is. I have my spouse hooked on Shotgun shooting now.

Totally! None of my friends were anti gun, but they were all gun neutral. They didn't really get why I 'nneded' to own guns. Every one of them that I have been able to convince to go shooting with me has since changed their tune. All had a great time, and two of them are now in the larket for pistols themselves.

-Chris

 

[kilbie]

My little brother was totally opposed to owning guns and thought it was stupid for me to have a CCW. That is until Adler and I took him out to the range. Now he is saving money to buy his own guns and get a CCW. Sometimes thats all it takes.

 

[Adler]

Yeah it makes people like lil' Kilbie think,,,wait you can do something else besides kill people with these? It just shows them its a tool not an incarnation of satan.

 

[llamase]

I wonder how many guns have actually killed people, as in gun smacks shooter in face and kills shooter.

 

[brucelee]

I wonder how many Muslims have been killed by guns Vs non Muslims. After all, pretty much every gun on the planet has pretty much been designed to kill Muslims in some fashion or another. :lol:

 

[only mortal]

If guns kill people, then I can blame mispelled words on the pencil

cable guy was right

 

[fatcat]

I wonder how many Muslims have been killed by guns Vs non Muslims. After all, pretty much every gun on the planet has pretty much been designed to kill Muslims in some fashion or another. :lol:

lol now that I think about that.... its mostly true.....

 

[[email protected]]

Thats like saying she wont be your friend because you are black. :roll:

 

[MACHINE]

Thats like saying she wont be your friend because you are black. :roll:

Thats how i've viewed this topic for a while its kind of discrimination.

 

[ish]

Everytime I bring up guns around coworkers, they all go silent and get scared.

stupid people.