[7.62]

I've been itchin' to find a full length M16 but all I can find are the M4s. I turn 18 in about two weeks so I'm pretty pumped to go out and by a new weapon all by myself now that I'll be a big boy

 

[fatcat]

Any brands of AR-15's you have in mind that you are looking for?

I think everyone but S&W are makeing full sized rifles still.

 

[Adler]

Yeah just about everyone is still making an A2 rifle.....which I actually prefer being a pragmatic kind of guy.

You could aslo buy a lower assembly and put an A2 upper on it.

Know if you want an A1 you can shop around there are places selling A1 uppers made by colt that are genuine M16 takeoffs unissued.

 

[DJ 9iron]

http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/weapons/bcwa2s20.asp

http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/weapons/pcwa2s20.asp

http://www.olyarms.com/?rootView=browse&view=dtl&ids=SM-1
http://www.olyarms.com/?rootView=browse&view=dtl&ids=K4B

http://www.stagarms.com/rightrifles.htm

http://dpmsinc.com/firearms/5.56x45mm/classic.aspx

http://www.rockriverarms.com/item-d...e=stda2407.gif&CFID=30784424&CFTOKEN=81421219

 

[Motorhead]

I still don't understand the fascination with an M16/AR15.

I guess when you're issued one -- you tend to hate it.

Oh well, I'd take my SAW anyday.

 

[DJ 9iron]

And we can all have one of those now can't we...

 

[fatcat]

Sure we can, I think there going for $60,000 now for a pre 86.

 

[DJ 9iron]

Precisely.

 

[Bobula]

Yea and we can alllllll have M16's can't we! (note from ca) Don't even throw those "CA legal" AR's in. I want to punch everyone i see who buys one!

 

[7.62]

well i know a good deal about the M16 but i dont know which civilian model performs the best, I'm looking for something that could be considered "Milspec"

 

[Toxin]

All of the above are good, you will get different recommendations for 'the best' from different people. Funny thing about the AR, you can spend a shit-ton of money on an AR-15 and have it not perform much better than a $1000 model. Most of the good names are rock solid, this technology has been around for a long time after all. Anything from the above list is good, I have a WELL used 17 year old Olympic Arms ( considered a cheaper manufacturer ) that runs perfect on any ammo with good grouping with all original parts. YMMV

My personal recommendation? DPMS

 

[7.62]

I've been looking around on the net and i found an AR upper and lower, but dont i need a permit or something to get it shipped or is it differant because it wouldnt be a whole rifle

 

[xxG3xx]

Sure we can, I think there going for $60,000 now for a pre 86.

i wonder if they take pre-orders.. like you said im coming to america lol

 

[DJ 9iron]

I've been looking around on the net and i found an AR upper and lower, but dont i need a permit or something to get it shipped or is it differant because it wouldnt be a whole rifle

You cannot purchase a lower. You must go through a person with a Federal Firearms License.

 

[fatcat]

You have to have the lower recever shiped to a FFL holder. If your going to buy a lower recever stay away from Rock river arms, they just fit to tight for 98%% of uppers out there. No more perment required for this than a normal rifle

I second that vote for DPMS! But Stag arms, Bushmaster, and anything Rock river thats already fitted are great.

 

[DJ 9iron]

I've been looking around on the net and i found an AR upper and lower, but dont i need a permit or something to get it shipped or is it differant because it wouldnt be a whole rifle

Make sure you pay attention to see if the upper you buy comes with a bolt carrier and/or charging handle. If not, track one down.

 

[7.62]

so how do i find an ffl holder, would that be a gunshop, and would they charge me a fee

 

[Deathborn]

Rock River Arms has gotten some good praise, as the dea loves their rifles.

 

[fatcat]

Oh, I love Rock river Arms VERY well made rifles. I covered in another topic that on all of my AR builds useing striped RRA lower's there recevers are so tight that many uppers dont fit them. I had to mill down the upper on my AR-15 pistol build in order to make it fit.

 

[Adler]

Just about any AR is mil spec. The AR is very precisely machined so most parts drop in.