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Well I would go P99 with the AS(anti Stress trigger). This gun can be fried single or double action like a traditional hammer gun. The XD is much like a glock because it is basically single action only.

The p99 also has a better trigger and is very easy to take down. It can also be custom tailored to your hand with the interchange handgrips. ANd if you dont like grip safeties then its a great gun. Its one of the softest shooting 9mms I have ever seen.


So yeah go P99.

Or if you want to be different you should look into the Steyr M series. Unique like a Walther and basically an updated and improved Glock. Shoots better, feels better, has better sights, easier to take down, optional manual safety, and very very accurate.
 

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Might I add that if you shop around the S&W 99 is a bit cheaper and just as reliable as the Walther...and it comes in 45acp.

My Big issue with the XD is a small one(well besides grip safety). The fact is that unlike the Glock or Steyr it is fully cocked. This just rubs me the wrong way as I am a paranoid and untrusting person. Should the internal safeties fail on the XD(big iff) the gun would have enough spring pressure to fire. Gaston Glock and Steyr were smart in this since their guns are about 75% cocked which on good ammo wont have sufficiant energy to fire a cartridge if the internal safety fails.



Shad if you think a 1911 is slim shoot a Tokarev pistol sometime. I have had 2 over teh years and its as thin or thinner than my little Walther pp
 

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Nothing wrong with a 9mm for carry....just get good ammo and it kills just fine. I like Corbon.
 

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Ducman said:
I haven't had a chance to shoot a XD, but have a shot a 99, the worst trigger I have ever felt, like dragging rocks across each other, inconsitent and mushy and that was the single action
Trigger smooths out after 500 rounds. Plus the AS trigger has a long pull on teh first round of every mag. This is so a copy carrying one doesnt accidentally shoot some unarmed crackfiend when he jumps out at him and the cops trigger finger flinches and you have a bunch of people yeling about police brutality on the TV
 

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ORCA said:
yeah a trip to a decent gun range with weapon rentals answers alot or questions. I demo'd a P99 and HK 2000 both in 9mm. It probably wasn't fair to the P99 to compare it to an HK and it did fall short.

The HK won in balance/weight, recoil system and overall accuracy at 100 and 250 feet. But you're also looking at a P2000 to be at least $200.00 more expensive then a P99.

Was it the new or old style p99? They did alot of updating in 2004 to the German line and are just now leaking them over here. This is why the AS guns have been so damned hard to find.

I have seen P99 tests over on a Walther forum where a guy with a SW99 and P99 were getting 2-2 1/2 groups at 25yards with their 9mms.

Its funny you mention the feel and balance of the HK being better. Not one of the newer HKs feels good in my hand and it just doesnt point well for me. Now my Steyr points just right and all the walthers I have ever shot do the same.

Feel of a gun is really a subjective observation that changes from person to person. And although thr p99 is my 3rd fav walther 9mm(p5, P88) it is by far the best modern plastic gun I have shot. I just cant afford to get one and opted for the Steyr when they were on a closeout for 250.00.
 

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The CZ is also an awesome gun as well and would be a close 2nd in the lineup you gave.
 

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Yeah and right now they are getting rid of teh DA/SA SW99 9m dirt cheap. I can sell them for 450 NIB.
 

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Same gun as long as its the SW99 and not the SW990. Only difference is the frame of the S&W is slightly different cosmetically(round trigger guard instead of square) and the slide profile is unique(More round with front and rear serrations). The slide and internals are all stainless steel with S&Ws Melonite coating while the walther is plain Carbon steel with the Tennifer GLock type finish. Walther makes the S&W frame btw

Internal parts and mags interchange between the 2.

Here is the SW



and the p99(Quick action but its close enough)
 

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I as talking to the walther dealer in Ames nearby( talk about overpriced but thats another story) and he said that Walther fixed all the quirks in the line now.
 

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They are usually around 530-550 here but have been harder to find in the AS configuration lately. So taht may have something to do with it.
 
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