Entry level over under skeet gun

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semabe

Discussion Starter · Aug 25, 2006

As the title implies, I'm in the market for a relatively inexpensive O/U Skeet Gun. The Berettas, etc....are a tad $$$$ as I'm new to the sport and am just kinda getting into it now....but I want my own gun because I will probably go 3 times a month.

Any ideas?

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Adler

· #2 · Aug 25, 2006

Lanber- Very high quality Spanish guns

Remington Spartan/EAA/Baikal- Russian guns that are sturdy and inexpensive

Fausti- Italian guns that can be had for cheap.

Mossberg Silver Reserve- Reliable but like all mossbergs not very fancy.

BSA- Harder to find. BSA design but foreign made

All should all be in the neighborhood of 500 bucks give or take depending on area.

Nose Nuggets

· #3 · Aug 25, 2006

Ithica doesnt make a o/u?

Adler

· #4 · Aug 26, 2006

Nope. And they would be as or more expensive as a Winchester at around 1500+

Jeremy

· #5 · Aug 26, 2006 (Edited)

Khan also makes very good quality affordable O/U's

Ithaca doesn't have an O/U, they made SxS guns for a long time, very nice guns that are worth a few dollars. I found very nice Ithaca .410 SxS for 500$ in a used rack last year and sold it 3 days later for over 3000$

Nose Nuggets

· #6 · Aug 26, 2006

Adler said:
Nope. And they would be as or more expensive as a Winchester at around 1500+

oh yeah i dident even think about the $

MrMcCrackin

· #7 · Aug 26, 2006

if ur looking for inexpensive and durable

stick with a major manufacture like remy or mossy

u never have ahard time findin parts and there are tons of cert gun smith around

once u are way into it - then you can go exotic

Adler

· #8 · Aug 26, 2006

Ithaca did sell O/U guns actually but they were made by the Japanese company SKB who still makes mid priced ones that are high quality.

I would stay away from most of the Turk made double shottys. They tend to wear out a bit too fast. The only exception is those that are made for and sold by CZ

Adler

· #9 · Aug 27, 2006

Oh and I forgot you could also check out Stoeger. They are imported from Brazil and are nice guns for around 500 bucks

Jeremy

· #10 · Aug 27, 2006

I gotta agree with Adler, Huglu and Khan are the only Turk imports that hold up to the stress of competitive shooting.

Since your just getting started, you maight consider buying a bottom line o/u like the Rem spartans and having the gun fitted to you. You will shoot a lot better with a 500$ skeet gun that is fitted for you than you every will with a 5000$ gun that doesn't fit you.

semabe

Discussion Starter · #11 · Aug 27, 2006

I'll take a look at the Remington. I'm shooting a Beretta 682 O/U, an older version of what is now the Beretta AL391 Semi-Auto, and a $12,000 Perazzi competition gun today (yikes!) According to my friends, they are making me shoot these so that I go spend all of my money on firearms.

Jeremy

· #12 · Aug 29, 2006

How much are you willing to spend? They may have spoiled you. Those are all very nice handleing guns. Guns like the Perazzi's, Kreighoffs are lifetime investiments, they're expensive but last forever.

I still suggest getting the gun you buy fitted for you. It's not cheap, 300-500$ but the gun will feel like part of you and point on target when it's done. It's fun using a cheap gun that fits you perfect and kicking the asses of the guys using guns that cost many times more that don't fit them.

semabe

Discussion Starter · #13 · Sep 7, 2006

I've decided against an O/U for now. I tried a competition prepped Remington 1100 and it kicked ass.....I'm going to get one of those for a starter gun. I liked the Perazzi and the 682, but at this stage it's just too much money.

Thanks for the suggestions.

MrMcCrackin

· #14 · Sep 7, 2006

semabe said:
I've decided against an O/U for now. I tried a competition prepped Remington 1100 and it kicked ass.....I'm going to get one of those for a starter gun. I liked the Perazzi and the 682, but at this stage it's just too much money.

Thanks for the suggestions.

cant go wrong there - can keep it fresh with constant rebuilds for cheap

if you shoot a lot that is

Adler

· #15 · Sep 8, 2006

The Remington 1100 is a nice gun. A bit heavy for a serious conpetition gun anymore but its a nice starter that will hold quite a bit of its value.

Jeremy

· #16 · Sep 8, 2006

The comp 1100's are pretty slimmed down compared to a field grade 1100 they're heavier than a O/U but semi's are and in comp the weight isn't totally a bad thing.

The 1100 is a good choice for a first gun. The 1 thing I would suggest is a T.S. shell catcher, they cost only around 10$ They hook right over the ejection port and catch the cases so you don't have to worry about searching for them.

Adler

· #17 · Sep 8, 2006

The only other Turk company I actually like is Sarsilmaz. They make the Excell Auto 5 for H&R and used to make the lower line of Verona semi autos. And from what I hear they will be making the new Armalite pistols and defense shotguns soon.

They are based on the Beretta 1200 which is a damn fine field gun. Had you told me about switching to an auto I could have told you about a good deal. CDNN was seling off their Bernadelli semi autos made under the Verona name. had the competition rib, fiber optic sights, raised comb Turkish Walnut stock, and a full set of tru lock tubes for 399. You couldnt order it but a local FFL could have for you.

semabe

Discussion Starter · #18 · Sep 12, 2006

Adler said:
The only other Turk company I actually like is Sarsilmaz. They make the Excell Auto 5 for H&R and used to make the lower line of Verona semi autos. And from what I hear they will be making the new Armalite pistols and defense shotguns soon.

They are based on the Beretta 1200 which is a damn fine field gun. Had you told me about switching to an auto I could have told you about a good deal. CDNN was seling off their Bernadelli semi autos made under the Verona name. had the competition rib, fiber optic sights, raised comb Turkish Walnut stock, and a full set of tru lock tubes for 399. You couldnt order it but a local FFL could have for you.

Damn that's cheap!

I've been given an "extended loan" on the Remi....so I'm going to practice with it for a while. Here's what I liked about it vs. the o/u's:

1. Single exit point for the shot.
2. I actually like the weight, it made for a smoother swing and damped the kick more. We usually go for hours, so this makes a difference.
3. This one was modified SPECIFICALLY to shoot skeet (the owner won several regionals with it) and as a result it's kind of a cheater gun. There's like no recoil, at all with soft loads. It's weird. I shot the 682 after this one and it felt like a jackhammer.

What I didn't like:

1. A tad heavy to carry around the field. Not a big deal, but it's there.
2. It's not a pretty gun, by any stretch of the imagination.
3. It doesn't feel like a precision instrument like the Perazzi or Beretta...but it does the job.

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Jeremy

· #19 · Sep 12, 2006

I'm guessing you shot either an older 682 or a FIELD grade 682. They are very good guns no question there, but the older gun are basically glorified field guns. A field gun is lighter since you carry it a lot and shoot it a little, They weigh around 7lbs. Nice to carry all day, painfull to shoot all day. Beretta now makes the 682 primarily for comp. and rightly so added a few pounds so now there close to 9lbs. in all but the field grade.

With the gun is heavier to begin with and semi the action takes some of the recoil so that helps with recoil also.

1100's aren't real pretty but the pretty guns cost a lot more.

The "feel" comes with a price. Perazzi, Beretta, Krieghoff, etc. are built for 1 thing, competition. They're balanced, fitted and put together perfectly and last a very long time.

If you watch some of the best skeet shooters you see they actually shoot with their eyes closed, they know where the target is coming from, when it's coming and where it's going, the gun is mounted so it just a matter of timing. They have total confidence in the gun, they know how it fells against the shoulder when mounted it feels right. The only thing that can go wrong is timing, the eyes are just another thing that can throw off that timing. it takes time for the eyes to follow the target then the brain and finger to communicate, with the eyes closed it only the brain and finger, you calll the bird, count off and squeeze the trigger.

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Adler

· #20 · Sep 13, 2006

You havent carried a heavy shotty until you carry an old Browning Auto 5 Magnum. Over 2lbs heavier than a 1100 field model. Thats what I used to carry.

You want a light light gun. Franchi AL48s in 20 gauge. They come in at under 6 lbs. Lightest semi on the market.

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