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Well, I have been wanting a bullpup style rifle for some time now and am willing to pay the 2500-3000 that has been asked...

Why?!?! Because.. When I got my M4 carbine and AR-15's Hardly anyone had them! Now? Everyone has an AR-15 or M4... I just want something thats going to stand out at the range and something that will always go up in price.

Im kinda stuck, I have ALWAYS wanted a steyr AUG or Styer USR after I got to empty a few mags out of one, and... there is just something about that bad ass looking rifle I cant get away from... Parts, the store I work at sells TONS of AUG and USR parts (More than I have ever seen anywhere else) but there expensive... The USR is the Post ban version of the AUG but you can change them back to an AUG now.



My other choice is the new F2000
As strange as it is I I have never fired one or held one.. They have one at a shop down the road I am going to try out. The F2000 is only going for $2,164 but who knows how many will be made, the AUGS the ones that are here now are the only ones that will ever be here.



Has anyone ever tryed the F-2000? and... Does anyone know of any AUG/USR's for sale?

As it figures... my boss at the shop had two AUG'S! that he sold only a few months ago... SHIT!

Basicly what im asking here is, if you had the $3000 what one would you go for?
 

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Well, people you have to say why you are voteing for one or the other!

Its the rules....
 

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well the f2k looks more of a halo 2 kind of gun,

a little more different than the AUG,

but no better than i guess right?????
 

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I have always been partial to the AUG as a family friend has one and I grew up in Australia. The AUG was the standard issue rifle for the army over there. Our school had a ROTC style program and during one of the camps we got to shoot them and some older FALs. Still one of my favorite guns to shoot, unfortunately I can't quite afford one right now.
 

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so silly answers... I'd go F2000 for a few reasons:

FN took alot of knowledge from their 1991-present M16 build contract and experience with the FNC and P90 builds and took the best of breed approach to the F2000 build. Fully ambi like the P90 but ejects cartridge forward instead on straight down like the P90. It takes STANAG compliant M16 magazines. It was intoduced in 2001 as opposed to the older AUG design of 1977.

1 negative of the FS-2000 (the variant you pictured) is this recall issued by FN:

http://www.fnhusa.com/contents/News/PDFs/7-21-06_FN_FS2000_Recall.pdf

But they have been quick to rectify the issue.

I was able to hold both at our local PD range recently. The AUG-A2 was very rear end heavy and felt awkward when your used to a front heavy rifle. Almost dropped it a few times changing the mag. The FS-2000 is much more balanced and the mag release encourages you cradle to the dropping mag.
 

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I would say AUG/USR.

The f2000 has reliability issues. The gun isn't made for drop free mags. You acutally have to pull them out. If you remove the dust gaskets they drop free but then the reliability issues start.

10lb trigger pull, the trigger is HEAVY and doesn't have a good break so accuracy is lacking.
 

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I say Aug as well...I mean its the only bullpup that is serving in multiple armies.


Australia
Ireland
Austria

No other bullpup is able to attract foreign orders on a decent scale.


Just because its older doesnt mean its worse. Look at the 1911 vs most guns. Its the oldest still being made and still has merits to be noticed. Things that stay around do it for a reason.


FN is just getting too spacey for me.
 

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Yea, one thing I dont lile is AUG triggers being total shit, but I have seen a few conversion kits for triggers to fix there strange trigger pull.

Has anyone else fired an AUG/USR?
 

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Just because its older doesnt mean its worse. Look at the 1911 vs most guns. Its the oldest still being made and still has merits to be noticed. Things that stay around do it for a reason.
Sorry if it came off that i had anything negative to say about the AUG due to it's age. I've posted before that I was directly affected by the 1911 to 92f changeover in the Marines, and was not happy to be forced to use anything but a 1911 as a sidearm. Basically my obsverstions of the F(FS)2000 is from holding them at the Shotshow and the PD range. I never personally fired the F2000, but saw the FN peeps demo it at the range. I haven't seen any F2000's in stores yet but that may just be since I live in Kali (Although the 2 stores I frequent in NV don't have them yet either). Just trying to help from an ergonomics/balance standpoint if anything.
 

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Sorry if it came off that i had anything negative to say about the AUG due to it's age. I've posted before that I was directly affected by the 1911 to 92f changeover in the Marines, and was not happy to be forced to use anything but a 1911 as a sidearm. Basically my obsverstions of the F(FS)2000 is from holding them at the Shotshow and the PD range. I never personally fired the F2000, but saw the FN peeps demo it at the range. I haven't seen any F2000's in stores yet but that may just be since I live in Kali (Although the 2 stores I frequent in NV don't have them yet either). Just trying to help from an ergonomics/balance standpoint if anything.


Im not a big bullpup guy anyways....think that they generally have good ideas behidn them but they just are not a great platform overall concerning reliability, ergos(especially for lefties), as well as reliability.

The AUG is about the best out there for being "ran through the paces" but I would not trade one for a good STG58 in the austrian army anyday.

BTW Orca.....yeah I am sorry for anyone effected by the Beretta 92 in the US military. The ones made stateside suck compared to the ones made in Italy....but that was a stiulation of the contract they signed when they got the contract.
 

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Augs can be switched out for lefties, we got a conversion kit at the shop work at.
 

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But you still need a kit unlike witha regualr rifle where a left can deal with shooting it. My roomie is a lefty and can shoot an AK, FAL, and SKS without any probs. My AR.....well thats not a left friendly gun.


I really like the look of the FAMAS....think its kind of cool cause its roller locking like my most beloved older HK guns.
 

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Adler said:
I say Aug as well...I mean its the only bullpup that is serving in multiple armies.


Australia
Ireland
Austria

No other bullpup is able to attract foreign orders on a decent scale.


Just because its older doesnt mean its worse. Look at the 1911 vs most guns. Its the oldest still being made and still has merits to be noticed. Things that stay around do it for a reason.
The F2000 is starting to pick up sales, it is a good weapon. They just totally changed it for the "civvy" version.

The FS2000 is a totally different animal. It almost seems that they made it mediocure on purpose. It has a totally different trigger, much heavier and sloppier than the F2000 and the barrel is 1-7" twist, You can't even load a 80-90gn bullet in an AR mag, with mil-sorp ammo in the 55-65gn range you'll be hyper-spinning the bullet and every imperfection in the shape will make it wobble like hell at any decent range. The F2000 on the other hand has multiple twist options 1-9, 1-10, 1-12.
 

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Time will tell. All I know is that Steyr is talking about reintorducing the AUG onto the civi market as my latest addition catalog from Williams shooting supply listed it in there. No price as of yet as its not in stock at time of printing.
 

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I voted AUG as well.
This is the only gun of your 2 choices I've shot.
Plus I've wanted one since I first saw them in that movie "Harley Davidson and The Marlboro Man."
 
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