[MrMcCrackin]

i got a ? for you

if you remember i had an issue with the recoil spring on my G27, called Glock and they sent me a new spring assembly.

it came last week

i was trying to figure out how to disassemble it so i can use the stainless parts from my broken assembly to create a new upgraded recoil assembly.

 

[Damn Yankee]

if you mean disassemble the spring, then I don't think it's possible without ruining the parts irrepairably. Give me 2 mins to grap my manual...

edit: yeah, there's no provisions in teh manual for disssembling the recoil spring assembly.

 

[MrMcCrackin]

if you mean disassemble the spring, then I don't think it's possible without ruining the parts irrepairably. Give me 2 mins to grap my manual...

edit: yeah, there's no provisions in teh manual for disssembling the recoil spring assembly.

Thanks for the research - that would explain why i was having issues getting it apart.

 

[MrMcCrackin]

Hey DY,


I just got back from the range - with the new recoil spring installed in my G27.

Now I bought some Remy UMC 250 round brick from wally world.

But I had several slow or failure to feeds - now i dont know if its the ammo OR the break in off the new stainless recoil spring.

I did notice that the new spring is wearing a finish of some sort off of the spring tube and there are a lot of flakes in the surrounding area.

plus the spring assembly is riding up off the pearch that is machined on the barrel.



any thoughts?

 

[Damn Yankee]

Sounds like the spring is breaking in a little, so it could be that. It also could be both the spring AND the ammo.

Get a different box and shoot some more, and let me know how it goes.

 

[MrMcCrackin]

Sounds like the spring is breaking in a little, so it could be that. It also could be both the spring AND the ammo.

Get a different box and shoot some more, and let me know how it goes.

yea - thats what i thought - maybe i will give the spring a little lube also


got to stop by wally world today or tomorrow and get soem more WWB



thanks for your support - i am just frustrated about this whole ordeal, first the recoil spring breakage, now misfeeds

 

[Damn Yankee]

Keep updating this thread with your results/problems....I'll help any way I can.

 

[MrMcCrackin]

thanks DM - looks like this weekend i will try and sneek out to the range - want to bring one of the scatter gunz anyway - need to feel the pain!

 

[MrMcCrackin]

Keep updating this thread with your results/problems....I'll help any way I can.

ok DM


got a 100 rounds of WWB from WallyWorld and went ot the range - havent cleaned the G27 since the last outing - just disassembly to look for issues


the first 50 rounds had 3 slow-to feeds not a complete failure to feed

the last 50 rounds had no issues

so it doesnt seem to be a ammo issue - but rather a recoil spring break-in

i will run another 100-200 through it before cleaning it - then will put a little lube on the spring assembly

if i have another slow to feed or a failure i will swap out to the factory recoil spring assembly.



in other news - DaButtKracken's Knoxx CompStock is amazing it really does reduce 85%-90% of the recoil - didnt feel like a 12 gage at all!

 

[Damn Yankee]

who is DM??? :lol:

sounds good though...hope it all works out

 

[MrMcCrackin]

who is DM??? :lol:

sounds good though...hope it all works out

dm - dungen master:lol:



so u agree - sounds like recoil spring break in?

 

[Damn Yankee]

yeah, if it's getting better with more rounds, I'd say break in. Give it time and see what it does.

 

[MrMcCrackin]

yeah, if it's getting better with more rounds, I'd say break in. Give it time and see what it does.

Hey Damn Yankee


its been a while and i finally cleaned and oiled the new recoil spring assembly

well i still had issues, so i had the range master give it a whirl and the same "slow to feed" condition was present.

he shot lefty - and mentioned that maybe the mag release extender was getting in the way, that my thumb may be placin preasure on it on recoil which would shift the mag ever so slightly to cause this condition

well last eve i replaced the extender with the factory release part and we are off to the range again today to see if that is the fix.


to recap:

replaced broken recoil spring assembly with all stainless part (still have 2 factory recoil assemblys)
replaced extended mag release with factory part

 

[Damn Yankee]

any updates?

 

[MrMcCrackin]

any updates?

hell yeah!


my g27 is almost back to stock now minus night sites and a 3.5# trigger

all mags have been placed back to stock also - pearce +1 extentions removed.


all the issues have been resolved minus some FTF's on the the G23+2 and G22+2 mags. they have stock mag springs and i have been told with factory +2 extentions i should get Wolf 10% mag springs.


looks like i am still going to get a g23 as winter carry and keep the 27 as summer carry.

i still have several hundred rounds to put through the 27 to verify i have address ALL the problems.


thats what i get for being a glock n00b and letting the Glockmiester talk me into all the aftermarket parts!

 

[meshmdz]

glad you got the 27 back in the saddle again man. u cant beat the glock subbies... they have always been my all round fave handguns...

 

[RandyS]

This is a very familiar story.

I have 'fixed' literally dozens of 'broken' glocks by replacing after market recoil spring assemblies with factory units.

Randy

 

[MrMcCrackin]

u know the probelm STILL exists -

I plan on shipping her back to Glock to check the spec's on the locking block and so on.

until then my trusty 229 is by my side and still looking to get a g23, just havent had a chance to poke the coals for the best deal.

 

[MrMcCrackin]

ok - i have an update


instead of dealin with the problem - i just locked the 27 in the safe in time out for it to think about what it has been doing wrong


i still wasnt able to get the large locking block pin out prior to time out



so in a caffine enduced state this past saturday night during a t1 install, i took the 27 outa da safe and proceded to tear it down

i had to bend the aftermarket slide stop up and over a bit, but got the locking block pin out and replaced the now slightly bent part with the factory orginal

took the rest of the gun apart looking for anyting that would be outa place and reassembled.

so at this point now the only "mods" the 27 has is a 3.5# trigger and night sites

everything else is stock



went to the range today after lunch and went through 100 rounds

i had 1 FTF - it was the last round in the mag, but it was the only time i got a hot casing land and stay on my arm, so i "shook it off" which could have resulted in a limp grip

the other 99 rounds went down range without a hitch

i plan on taking the 27 back to the range for some more "tests" to see if we have corrected the issue.