[Mach5]

http://www.turboculture.com/forums/showthread.php?t=247

I wasn't a big fan of the "NSX" for a while...but the more time I spend around one, the more I'm really starting to dig them. They can be set up very well.

I'm really trying to fight, going on autotrader and looking for one.

 

[MrMcCrackin]

still way over priced for what you get

 

[Mach5]

I know...I've always thought that too...they start to get really nice with mod's...I just wish it was better to start with.

 

[carney]

I've driven one on many occasions, i've driven faster cars but there was just something different about the nsx i liked it though

 

[MrMcCrackin]

well look at it this way - at least your not wanting a supra! LOL

 

[Janq]

well look at it this way - at least your not wanting a supra! LOL

Agreed. ^^

I bet folk can still pull hos with an NSX as it it's not yet dated looking.
Go for it but if you turbo it be sure to watch out for the dreaded 12 mph. spool effect. when going around corners or through school zones.

- Janq

 

[Nose Nuggets]

bwahahaha nsx..... you could have someone so much cooler, faster, and better handling for the same money.

Go for it but if you turbo it be sure to watch out for the dreaded 12 mph. spool effect. when going around corners or through school zones.

is this in reference to one particular thread on a WRX forum? or am i making connections where their are none. because, i dont know of any real dredded spool effect, regardless of speed.

 

[Mach5]

i've driven faster cars but there was just something different about the nsx i liked it though

Me too and that's what's killing me!!!

...there are a lot of older NSX's in my area...that were never driven, they look to be in great shape, Garage Queens.

Most of them look to be owned by old dudes that tried to pick up trim in them.

I've love to pick one up and gut it out to be my new Track Slut! I just don't know...

 

[Nose Nuggets]

replacement parts for an nsx are expensive. to be perfectly honest, i think an NSX is one of the WORST track cars for the weekend warrior. besides, 90% of the people who do weekend track events or SCCA (Spoiled Children Crashing Automobiles) events dont know the basics of vehicle dynamics and car contoll. you would be better, and have far more satisfaction if you where in lower HP car and just had skills. do a 3-day at Skip Barber racing school and buy some old mans weekend race miata. their are all KINDS of expenses that go along with taking your car to the track the last thing you want to be doing is shelling out extra dough for replacement nsx shit.

 

[sp89]

I'm actually a big fan of the NSX myself, having driven several over the years, and I vote 'yes'.

I agree that it has that 'something' when you drive it that makes it a great car. Plus, it was the JD Power top rated car for overall quality for several of the years it was produced, so you won't need those "expensive" parts often. Besides, Ferraris and Lambos have "expensive" parts. These are hardly expensive cars to maintain unless you mod with reckless abandon.

It's a great looking car. In silver, it reminds me of an f-16. Timeless design, limited in number, and always turns heads despite being a ~$30k (used) car. I say go for it.

I'd have one if I didn't live on a gravel road...

sp89

 

[Mach5]

do a 3-day at Skip Barber racing school and buy some old mans weekend race miata. their are all KINDS of expenses that go along with taking your car to the track

***Disclaimer*** Not trying to be a being a d!ick or a hot-shot***Disclaimer***

But I have about 8 years (Spoiled Children Crashing Automobiles) and other driver's training, track time....list goes on.

...and you are 100% right with the above statement....but I've done the low HP stuff and High HP in my STi...now I want to sit at the big kids table....but once again you are 100% right.

What is it about these stupid cars...that I can stop thinking about them?

 

[Nose Nuggets]

I'm actually a big fan of the NSX myself, having driven several over the years, and I vote 'yes'.

I agree that it has that 'something' when you drive it that makes it a great car. Plus, it was the JD Power top rated car for overall quality for several of the years it was produced, so you won't need those "expensive" parts often. Besides, Ferraris and Lambos have "expensive" parts. These are hardly expensive cars to maintain unless you mod with reckless abandon.

It's a great looking car. In silver, it reminds me of an f-16. Timeless design, limited in number, and always turns heads despite being a ~$30k (used) car. I say go for it.

I'd have one if I didn't live on a gravel road...

sp89

comparing any aspect of an NSX to a ferrari or lambo is silly. ferraris and lambos suck balls. furthermore, using a JDP&A award to somehow qualify the vehicles quality in a race track environment, is = silly. their will be modding, but anytime a car touches the race surface you have to assume the presence of reckless abandon. you also have to be willing to accept the fact that every time its on track you could be writing the entire thing off and catching a cab home.

 

[Nose Nuggets]

***Disclaimer*** Not trying to be a being a d!ick or a hot-shot***Disclaimer***

But I have about 8 years (Spoiled Children Crashing Automobiles) and other driver's training, track time....list goes on.

...and you are 100% right with the above statement....but I've done the low HP stuff and High HP in my STi...now I want to seat at the big kids table....but once again you are 100% right.

What is it about these stupid cars...that I can stop thinking about them?

what type of instruction / driver training have you had?

you consider your STI high hp?

 

[Mach5]

what type of instruction / driver training have you had?

Bondurant 3 day High Performance Driving
Bondurant Executive Protection / Anti-Kidnapping
DoD General Driver's Course
DoD Executive Driver's Course

....but I need more!!! I can't wait to do the Skip Barber racing school.

you consider your STI high hp?

Yes I do...compared to a miata yes, compared to other STi's yes...compared to a race prep'ed 800HP NSX...no

 

[Nose Nuggets]

i know nothing about your STI, i was sort of probing for a mod list
i have an 03 wrx myself (met brucie on a wrx forum)

i used to work for Skip Barber so ill tell you a secret. Unless you plan on pursuing professional race car driving as a career, the 3 day racing school probably is not for you. YES you get track time, YES its exclusively in the formula dodge open wheel 'race car', and YES its 3 days of the BEST race car instruction i have ever HEARD about. BUT! for the money it might not be the best pick. most people find the 2 day driving course to be more informative regarding street cars. regardless of street/track application. plus you get to rip vipers on day 2, watch the instructors connect black'ies the entire way around the autocross, and then get tossed around in a 1 and 7/8th neon ride around the track while your instructor drivers bump wing mirrors at 100mph down the front straight and wile braking into turn 2 (laguna seca).

what i like about the driving school over the racing school is the auto cross environment. your in an essentially consequence free environment. your surrounded by cones as apposed to concrete K wall, and you have an instructor IN the car with you. plus, nothing makes you better at catching slides then catching slides. thats why you get a good half day in a Dakota w/ bald tires on a drenched paved surface with an instructor yanking the e-brake to enduce spins.

if you strapped for cash or cant really justify $3K for the 3 day, dont fool yourself into thinking your doing yourself an injustice by going with the driving school.

where do you live BTW?

 

[Janq]

is this in reference to one particular thread on a WRX forum? or am i making connections where their are none. because, i dont know of any real dredded spool effect, regardless of speed.

Yep, multiple particular threads on a WRX forum...and I was totally making a funny just to poke fun at his idea in a friendly non-combative way.

Being serious the spool effect actually kicks in at like 80 mph.
They tested it on MythBusters.






- Janq

 

[Mach5]

i know nothing about your STI, i was sort of probing for a mod list


where do you live BTW?

You have a pm

 

[Nose Nuggets]

Yep, multiple particular threads on a WRX forum...and I was totally making a funny just to poke fun at his idea in a friendly non-combative way.

Being serious the spool effect actually kicks in at like 80 mph.
They tested it on MythBusters.






- Janq

are you being facetious again? what 'spool' effect?

 

[Janq]

Yes...I'm totally pulling your leg.
Oh, and spool effect is what happens when the turbos turbine spools up and as a result on comes zee powa!...which causes bitches to wreck dey shit.

- Janq

 

[sp89]

comparing any aspect of an NSX to a ferrari or lambo is silly. ferraris and lambos suck balls. furthermore, using a JDP&A award to somehow qualify the vehicles quality in a race track environment, is = silly. their will be modding, but anytime a car touches the race surface you have to assume the presence of reckless abandon. you also have to be willing to accept the fact that every time its on track you could be writing the entire thing off and catching a cab home.

I think that I respectfully disagree with your post, although I'm not sure I entirely understand your position either. Do you like the NSX or not?

Whether or not Ferraris and Lamborghinis 'suck balls' really wasn't the point, it's the cost of the parts that I made reference to. Having cared for a sick and sad little old Maserati for several years (no, not a Chrysler), I'm quite familiar with how proud the Italians are of their parts, which is made abundantly clear in the price. The atrocious build quality of those cars means they nickel and dime you into bankruptcy if you don't have serious cash flow. There's no way that the most exotic Honda parts come anywhere near real exotic car part prices or the associated service costs (engine-out rebuild on even a cheap v12 Ferrari is roughly the price of an NSX- look into it). And it doesn't matter whether its an NSX, a Lambo, a Miata or a Chevy Astro, logic dictates that its going to get used up faster on the track.

Every time *any* car touches the race surface, you accept the risk that you may eat the full cost of it, and if you can't afford to do that (at worst) and minimally replace the high-wear items like brake pads, tires, fluids etc. (at best), you shouldn't be racing at all. It's no different in an NSX than any other track toy.

It's not up to you or I to decide if the OP can afford to ball up an NSX, since he's clearly aware of the inherent risk of track time and I suspect has researched costs to get to this point in the decision making process.

As far as the JD Power reference, I didn't intend to imply that the rating somehow indicated trackworthiness, but the award is a pretty good indicator of general construction quality. Having driven everything from a bone stock NSX (which belonged to Phil Knight) to a Comptech supercharged supercar, I can tell you that the NSX is a proven winner. At the relatively low price that an older car is available for, it is a lot of well-engineered, mid-engined sports car for the money, and much more of a head turner than just about anything else at the price point (Can you think of a more exotic $30k car that's not built on a fiero chassis?).

Anyway, I reiterate my position that if the OP wants, and can afford, an NSX and subsequent associated costs, there's no reason not to buy one.

Regards,
sp89