[Janq]

Do any of you have working knowledge with the 'SureSight' (Triangular), XS Sight System (bladed profile) or the 'HexSite' (Ghost Ring) sighting systems?

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http://www.suresight.com
http://www.tacticalforums.com/cgi-bin/tacticalubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=74;t=000615
http://www.glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=350419

http://www.xssights.com/sightimages.html
http://www.handgunsmag.com/tactics_training/target_081005/

http://www.goshen-hexsite.com
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HexSite
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=164517

Any input is appreciated.

- Janq

 

[Adler]

Well Steyr has trapezoidal sights (Triangle front, Trap rear) and for practical combat or self defense I find them to be better than a 3 dot. Very quick to aquire and I wish other makers would go to it.

 

[brucelee]

^^^

Agreed. Why is the cocept so alein?

 

[Jeremy]

I have the XS 24/7 standard dot on my all my Sig's. They aren't for precision shooting, but for quick hits on target they're awesome.

 

[Adler]

I have seen the new FEG/Magnum Research made Charles Daly Hi Powers with XS sights on them. Im tempted to pick one up.

 

[MrMcCrackin]

"9-21-06

Product shipments are temporarily delayed while we retool for the next generation of SureSight which will feature improved visibility and increased accuracy at longer ranges. We expect a delay of just a several more weeks before we are back up and running.

If you would like production updates, and an opportunity to purchase before we release SureSight to the general public, please let us know how to contact you BY CLICKING HERE.

We are looking forward to doing business with you in the very near future!

All the best,

Chaim Stein
President, SureSight LLC"





i have seen these before - and have considered getting them on my next handgun


i really like they way they look, but want to really see some in person




there is a vid on the website:


http://www.suresight.com/guns&ammotv.wmv

 

[MrMcCrackin]

hey janq -

what is your intent for the sights?

CCW?
IDPA?
Sheets&Giggles?

 

[Janq]

MMC if you go to the GlockTalk thread at Page 10 (I read through the entire thread last night...lots of interesting and largely positive stuff) the inventor mentions that the V2.0 is to be debuted very soon as per a post this week.

My intent is toward CCW/IDPA.
I don't really care about fine/distance targetting for this project as I'd be installing it/them on my Colt Defender and SA CCO uppers. I have the GSR for and my Marvel .22 conversion unit for target/bullseye use.

The Hexsight on the surface seems to be pretty wacky but they like the others have a strong contingent of backers who are not just Joe, John, and Jane intardnet expert saying me rikey.
All three look wacky and are very unconventional but thats fine as I'm open minded to what night work better. Currently I have iron sights on the Defender and Novak trits on the CCO that are growing dull/dead.

The SureSight inventor plainly states that his product was not intended for distance targetting or fine/Bullseye style shooting. It can be used for as much but he says the grouping at 15+ yds. will be wider than same with convetional sights on the same gun. The Hexsite inventor says ti works fine for long distance and actually sells his product for use on longguns including offering a pseudo whitepaper on targettting at distance. The XS folks say their product works at all ranges including as far out as 100 yds (!) with a pistol. The following video supposedly proofs that but they do not actually show the guns sights and well it's marketing which can be taken only at face value as best.

Tactical Response video - 2 min (7MB)
James Yeager of Tactical Response demonstrates the use of the Big Dot on a Glock 19 out to 100 yards.
http://www.xssights.com/assets/XS_Sights_Demo_LoRes-1.wmv

My intent is to replace the stock sights on the Defender to start with somethign that is focused toward quick/quickest combat sighting. I have used that gun for IDPA but as current it's less good for that due to it having frankly shitty stock iron sights. My CCO has upgraded Novak trits but I just don't like them and I wondere if there was something better & quicker for a CCWs purposes aside from index/point shooting.
My concern with the XS ('BigDot') and SureSight products are that the front sights are larger than normal and thus will they not snag in my holsters, specifically the Bandera Beltster I have as my others are all kydex.

This is a serious exercise even as these products do seem to be nutty.
In my same thread on this at OT Ducman said he'd planned to try XS for IPSC and Fuzz541 said he's going to e-mail the SureSight folks and request a set to evaluate (he's a VT cop & armorer). I may order the Hexsight to try and compare my results against that of Fuzz & Duc to see which product is the actual better/best item.

Thanks,

- Janq

 

[carney]

i've shot a glock with the express night sights on it and i loved it, as soon as i get my new glock that is the first thing that is going on it

 

[Janq]

Carney,

Did it have the standard or oversized front sight?
If oversized did you notice any holster hangup issues with leather?

Thanks,

- Janq

 

[Jeremy]

After I posted this morning I realised i was wrong, I have the XS standard on my revolution and the large dot on my 226CT's. For "business" purposes I wear a BLack Hills leather custom double jackass rig, they're confy and easily conceilable if you have your dinner jacket cut right. Any way as long as you keep the insides of the holster waxed they preform flawlessly, unwax there are no hang ups but there is a little drag if you draw with your wrist at an odd angle.

In anything but very bright lighting you can shoot with both eyes open since the big dot on the front draws your eye focus.

Longer range targets 25-30yds are actually easier to aquire and hit once you learn how the sights work. My 25+yd range is 50 8" diameter knockdown plates mounted on railroad ties ranging from 25-32yds in a slight arc from the shooting position. If you run the top of the sight on the bottom of the target you hit the lower 1/3 of the target everytime which on a person means if you put the top of the sight on the BG's mouth you hit between the nose and forhead.

 

[carney]

Carney,

Did it have the standard or oversized front sight?
If oversized did you notice any holster hangup issues with leather?

Thanks,

- Janq

standard

 

[jamz]

I'll have to try a ghost ring sight, I have astigmatism in my strong eye which makes peep sights a skinny oval shape instead of round, which sucks.

I love the steyr sights as well.

 

[Mach5]

Well Steyr has trapezoidal sights (Triangle front, Trap rear) and for practical combat or self defense I find them to be better than a 3 dot. Very quick to aquire and I wish other makers would go to it.

^^^

Agreed. Why is the cocept so alein?

I'll have to try a ghost ring sight, I have astigmatism in my strong eye which makes peep sights a skinny oval shape instead of round, which sucks.

I love the steyr sights as well.

I like the steyr sights also...here's a site that sales almost steyr type sights... http://www.advantagetactical.com/

 

[Janq]

I like the steyr sights also...here's a site that sales almost steyr type sights... http://www.advantagetactical.com/

M5,

I've seen those before and they are more like a rip off of the SureSight product, which has been out longer.

The Steyr sights are these...

http://www.steyr-mannlicher.com/index.php?id=644

- Janq

 

[Leibster]

Hi Everyone,

My name is Chaim Stein, and I am the inventor of the SureSight. If you'd like to know anything about it, please feel free to ask!

If you want to read some reviews, there is a long thread over on GlockTalk with reviews. Click HERE to read it.

We expect to be back in the marketplace well before year's end. If you'd like to be updated when the sights are available again, please click HERE to sign up.

All the best,

--Chaim

 

[Mach5]

^
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No love for the USP?

 

[Leibster]

Mach 5,

Actually, we LOVE the USP! We just need to make sure there's a market for it before we shell out considerable funds to make sights for them.

If you're interested, sign up over at my website and let us know that you're interested specifically for a USP. That's the main way I'm estimating interest.

--Leibster

 

[fatcat]

I know the store I work at I have people asking for other types of sights for the H&K USP compact, but no one seems to make them like they do for the full size. Id buy some if they made them for sure, I know the compact 40's are becoming very popular now.

Also I do like the sure sights system, going to show the shop owner and see if he wants to get into buying some. Two things that I would be scared of is it getting damaged easily from dropping (Not that I drop my pistols) but mostly the front sight getting caught in nylon holsters, I did see on your site talking about it would fit in holsters but Any testing been done tight fitting most types of holsters?

It's also cool that you would come on and talk to the people here. very good promotional tool and to find out what people want in a sighting system, not to many people doing that now adays.

 

[Leibster]

fatcat,
Thanks for your kind words, and talking to people about SureSight!

--Leibster