[alachua]

Searching ar15forums is essentially useless. I'm going to be getting an AR15 in the not so distant future (after the part out and sale of my STi, to be exact), and I want to start nailing down the features that I want. Right now, I am looking at something to the effect of:

Flat top, carbine or midlength set up, using flip up sights, and eventually a reasonably priced optic on top.

Use will be limited almost solely to plinking in the 100 yrd. range. I currently shoot a 10/22, and have put a thousand or two rounds through an AK. My current situation has me shooting rifle left handed, due to a bad right eye (sibling/childhood indiscretion), though once i get some glasses that my change. I use a cheap Bushnell 3-9x32 scope on the 10/22, mostly because I can't pick out my holes in the target much past 20 yrds. when shooting open sights.

Back to the question at hand though. Has anyone used both, or more specifically, used the skeleton stock for an extended period. While I like the look of the skeleton, and doubt I would make much use of the variable lenght of the adjustable stock, I'm more concerned with having a rifle that feels comfortable when in use. I'm shorter (5'8"), so the only benefit I see to the collapsible stock is that I would be able to tailor the relieve on my optics to better suit my shooting position, and shorter reach. Any opinions?

The first of a handful of AR questions I have brewing.

-Cliff

 

[Ducman]

I have the ACE shorty and full length stock, They are more comfortable to shoot with then the collapsible, you get a better cheek weld for shooting with a scope. and the foam piece is comfy

You can adjust the length of pull on the ace by changing the rubber end piece, for your eye relief, you move the scope, not the stock

 

[ORCA]

There are also adjustable length versions of the ACE stock.

http://riflestocks.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=75_76&osCsid=938f4f930e414be0a8853f1628c69c0c

 

[samit]

I have the full length ARFX and it is fine for me, I thought about the ARFX-E, but it seemed too small, which it is. Remember if you are going to get the ARFX, you also need to buy a reciever extension tube. The ARFX-E comes with one, as it is a special size.

 

[alachua]

I have the ACE shorty and full length stock, They are more comfortable to shoot with then the collapsible, you get a better cheek weld for shooting with a scope. and the foam piece is comfy

You can adjust the length of pull on the ace by changing the rubber end piece, for your eye relief, you move the scope, not the stock

I am pretty much sold on the ACE, just have to decide between standard and shorty. As far as the eye relief, that was more for when shooting with friends, as most people will have a slightly different shooting position (especially if I keep shooting rifle lefty), but to hell with them, they aren't buying it.

I was pricing out a Del-Ton upper last night. Came to around 950 speced out as I was thinking:

Barrel: DTI 16" 1x9 Mid-Length Chrome Lined Heavy Barrel
Handguards:YHM 4 Rail Free Float Tube
BC:Standard Bolt & Carrier
Buttstock:ACE ARFX
Carrying Handle:None
Flash Hiders:A2 Flash Hider
Gas Blocks:YHM Flip Up Front Gas Block
Grips:Ergo Sure Grip -Ambi
Lower Parts:Lower Parts Kit with Rock River Arms 2 Stage Trigger
T Handle:Standard Charging Handle
Uppers:Flat Top Upper
ARMS #40L Flip Up Rear Sight - Low
TangoDown Battle Grip Rail Cover (x3)

Figure add in a stripped lower, and a vortex flash hider, and I think I have everything I am looking for, until I decide to add some glass, or a suppressor.

Is it worth the $50 going to the chrome lined bolt carrier? If it makes it easier to keep clean, then I would probably do it.



-Cliff

 

[Mach5]

I have the Ace Skeleton Stock - full size. I like it a lot.

 

[samit]

For that kind of money I really think you are better off going with a tier 1 company like CMMG or Bushmaster or Stag or RRA or Sabre. Otherwise you can get a decent upper for a few hundred.

 

[jamz]

I have the Skeleton stock and like it as well. Not sure I'd use the whole collapsable part of a normal stock.

 

[samit]

I was walking around my house with my AR which has an ACE ARFX stock on it, only one other person was home. When my roomate saw it he became a little afraid, later he commented that it was "badass". I'm not sure if he meant me or the rifle, or an amalgamation of the rifle and I.

If there is a point to this, here it is, if you want people to be scared of you and think that you are a badass, get an ARFX stock.

 

[Ducman]

One other issue with the shorty stock. my nose hit the charging handle. but it does make for a compact gun

 

[alachua]

One other issue with the shorty stock. my nose hit the charging handle. but it does make for a compact gun

Very nice looking rife. What length barrel/what flash suppressor is on that? BTW, how do you like your EOTech?

-Cliff

 

[Ducman]

7.5" barrel with a Miculek brake. The brake is very loud on the short barrel. I can feel the blast in my teeth. It would also shoot out a huge fireball, so big that it blocked my vision. I changed out to a DMPS brake which solved the blast problem.

The Eotech is great. I had a match where there were 6" steel targets at 125 yards and paper targets from 3-25 yrds, The Eotech was perfect for this. Precise on the long shots, very fast close in

 

[fatcat]

I never knew you had a 7.5 on your SBR... How is the accuracy on that? I got a 7.5 inch upper on order for an AR pistol in 5.56 that im going to have turned into a SBR man, yours looks great..

 

[Ducman]

I have never shot it for accuracy, I have heard that they are around 3moa. It good enough to hit soda bottles at 100yrds. Most of my target are shot inclose and fast, so accuracy it not as big an issue as reliability, which has been great. The biggest plus has been shooting on the move, transitioning though windows or door, the SBR is very easy to run and move with. Don't have to worry about the barrel hitting window sills and don't lose time pulling the rifle back out.


Mine does not like 55gr wolf, they will tumble, it will shoot 62gr or 55gr nato without problem

 

[fatcat]

Thats what I was just about to ask, do you think it jams more than a 16 inch barrel and did you have to do anything to it? "Ex pigtail or larger gas port"

Also, wheres the upper from?

 

[Ducman]

The upper is CMMG. The only thing I have done was add a #10 o-ring on the extractor spring, runs great

 

[fatcat]

Thats what I figured I would do is just put a D-fender under the extracter.