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Reasons to Support Gun Control

1. Banning guns works, which is why New York, DC, and Chicago cops need guns.

2. Washington DC’s low murder rate of 69 per 100,000 is due to strict gun control, and Indianapolis’ high murder rate of 9 per 100,000 is due to the lack of gun control.

3. Statistics showing high murder rates justify gun control but statistics showing increasing murder rates after gun control are "just statistics."

4. The Brady Bill and the Assault Weapons Ban, both of which went into effect in 1994, are responsible for the decrease in violent crime rates, which have been declining since 1991 and reached an all-time low in 2006, two years after the ban expired.

5. We must get rid of guns because a deranged lunatic may go on a shooting spree at any time, and anyone who would own a gun out of fear of such a lunatic is paranoid.

6. The more helpless you are the safer you are from criminals.

7. An intruder will be incapacitated by tear gas or oven spray, but if shot with a .357 Magnum will get angry and kill you.

8. A woman raped and strangled is morally superior to a woman with a smoking gun and a dead rapist at her feet.

9. When confronted by violent criminals, you should "put up no defense — give them what they want, or run" (Handgun Control Inc. Chairman Pete Shields, Guns Don't Die - People Do, 1981, p. 125).

10. The New England Journal of Medicine is filled with expert advice about guns; just like Guns and Ammo has some excellent treatises on heart surgery.

11. One should consult an automotive engineer for safer seatbelts, a civil engineer for a better bridge, a surgeon for spinal paralysis, a computer programmer for Y2K problems, and Sarah Brady [or Sheena Duncan, Adele Kirsten, Peter Storey, etc.] for firearms expertise.

12. The 2nd Amendment, ratified in 1787, refers to the National Guard, which was created by an act of Congress in 1917.

13. The National Guard, funded by the federal government, occupying property leased to the federal government, using weapons owned by the federal government, punishing trespassers under federal law, is a state militia.

14. These phrases," right of the people peaceably to assemble," "right of the people to be secure in their homes," "enumeration's herein of certain rights shall not be construed to disparage others retained by the people," and "The powers not delegated herein are reserved to the states respectively, and to the people," all refer to individuals, but "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" refers to the state.

15. We don't need guns against an oppressive government, because the Constitution has internal safeguards, but we should ban and seize all guns, thereby violating the 2nd, 4th, and 5th amendments to that Constitution.

16. Rifles and handguns aren't necessary to national defense, which is why the army has millions of them.

17. Private citizens shouldn't have handguns, because they serve no military purpose, and private citizens shouldn't have "assault rifles," because they are military weapons.

18. The ready availability of guns today, with waiting periods, background checks, fingerprinting, government forms, et cetera, is responsible for recent school shootings,compared to the lack of school shootings in the 40's, 50's and 60's, which resulted from the availability of guns at hardware stores, surplus stores, gas stations, variety stores, mail order, et cetera

19. The NRA's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign about kids handling guns is propaganda, and the anti-gun lobby's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign is responsible social activity.

20. Guns are so complex that special training is necessary to use them properly, and so simple to use that they make murder easy.

21. A handgun, with up to 4 controls, is far too complex for the typical adult to learn to use, as opposed to an automobile that only has 20.

22. Women are just as intelligent and capable as men but a woman with a gun is "an accident waiting to happen" and gun makers' advertisements aimed at women are "preying on their fears."

23. Ordinary people in the presence of guns turn into slaughtering butchers but revert to normal when the weapon is removed.

24. Guns cause violence, which is why there are so many mass killings at gun shows.

25. A majority of the population supports gun control, just like a majority of the population supported owning slaves.

26. A self-loading small arm can legitimately be considered to be a "weapon of mass destruction" or an "assault weapon."

27. Most people can't be trusted, so we should have laws against guns, which most people will abide by because they can be trusted.

28. The right of online pornographers to exist cannot be questioned because it is constitutionally protected by the Bill of Rights, but the use of handguns for self defense is not really protected by the Bill of Rights.

29. Free speech entitles one to own newspapers, transmitters, computers, and typewriters, but self-defense only justifies bare hands.

30. The ACLU is good because it uncompromisingly defends certain parts of the Constitution, and the NRA is bad, because it defends other parts of the Constitution.

31. Charlton Heston as president of the NRA is a shill who should be ignored, but Michael Douglas as a representative of Handgun Control, Inc. is an ambassador for peace who is entitled to an audience at the UN arms control summit.

32. Police operate with backup within groups, which is why they need larger capacity pistol magazines than do "civilians" who must face criminals alone and therefore need less ammunition.

33. We should ban "Saturday Night Specials" and other inexpensive guns because it's not fair that poor people have access to guns too.

34. Police officers, who qualify with their duty weapons once or twice a year, have some special Jedi-like mastery over handguns that private citizens can never hope to obtain even if they spend hours each weekend at the range.

35. Private citizens don't need a gun for self-protection because the police are there to protect them, even though the Supreme Court says the police are not responsible for their protection.

36. Citizens don't need to carry a gun for personal protection but police chiefs, who are desk-bound administrators who work in a building filled with cops, need a gun.

37. "Assault weapons" have no purpose other than to kill large numbers of people, which is why the police need them but "civilians" do not.

38. When Microsoft pressures its distributors to give Microsoft preferential promotion, that's bad; but when the Federal government pressures cities to buy guns only from Smith & Wesson, that's good.

39. Trigger locks do not interfere with the ability to use a gun for defensive purposes, which is why you see police officers with one on their duty weapon.

40. When Handgun Control, Inc., says they want to "keep guns out of the wrong hands," they don't mean you. Really.




41. Allowing civilians to obtain a license to carry a concealed handgun in public will lead to shootouts at traffic lights and neighbors will murder each other over petty argument, which is why the murder rate has gone down in every state that passed laws allowed concealed carry.

42. We shouldn't expose children to firearms or educate them in their safe operation because they might abuse that knowledge and go on a killing spree, but we should expose children to sex and educate them on using condoms and birth control because if they know how to do it safely they won't abuse it.

43. Sarah Brady is more responsible and trustworthy than the majority of the American population when it comes to firearms, which makes it okay for her to carry a handgun in violation of several laws for years before obtaining a license to carry it.

44. Members of gun control groups are also more responsible and trustworthy than you, which is why so many of them have been arrested for drug and weapons violations.

45. Police and politicians need bulletproof vests because criminals might shoot them, but civilians shouldn't have bulletproof vests because the police might have to shoot them.

46. A rifle that is four feet long, costs ten thousand dollars, uses a telescopic sight that costs three thousand dollars, weighs almost fifty pounds, fires ammunition that costs five dollars a shot, and is produced in relatively low quantities is the perfect weapon for a gang member to carry with him everywhere he goes in the 'hood.

47. There is no real difference between a semi-automatic gun and a machine gun, so we should ban both.

48. Civilians shouldn't own "assault weapons" because they are too inaccurate and just spray bullets everywhere, and civilians shouldn't own "sniper rifles" because they are too accurate and can kill people from "miles away".

49. "Assault weapons" are used in less than 8% of violent crime, but they are infinitely more deadly than other weapons that are more popular with criminals.

50. Statistics on children being killed by "gun crime" are legitimate, even if they include people as old as 21 and criminals who were shot by the police or civilians, as opposed to people being shot by criminals.
 

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I hope you are joking one reason to have assault weapons so we can protect ourself against our government shall it become fascists which i believe gun control is one step towards that i believe an action of war is needed now so go ahead take my rifles im not going down without a fight.Surrender is not an option FUCK GUN CONTROL FUCK YOU ATF FUCK YOU HITLERIST SOVEIT FUCK TARDS TRYING TO DISARM THE CIVILIAN POPULATION SO WE CANNOT FIGHT BACK AGAINST YOUR UNJUST SELF RIGHTEOUS ASSES
 

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I hope you are joking one reason to have assault weapons so we can protect ourself against our government shall it become fascists which i believe gun control is one step towards that i believe an action of war is needed now so go ahead take my rifles im not going down without a fight.Surrender is not an option FUCK GUN CONTROL FUCK YOU ATF FUCK YOU HITLERIST SOVEIT FUCK TARDS TRYING TO DISARM THE CIVILIAN POPULATION SO WE CANNOT FIGHT BACK AGAINST YOUR UNJUST SELF RIGHTEOUS ASSES

and yet i find another reason to flame. you cease to amaze me. you are so ignorant that you cannot see that was a 100% sarcastic post. gl in life, you will need it.
 

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Weisserwulf read more carefully next time anmd ease up. Its a joke. Alot of people always read the topic title and little else if its a large post. IF you must rant on about gungrabbers use a little more subdued language and argue with them. If you have your facts straight they simply cant prove that their policies work.
 

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and yet i find another reason to flame. you cease to amaze me. you are so ignorant that you cannot see that was a 100% sarcastic post. gl in life, you will need it.
Ohh well even if it was sarcastic I still write how i feel,why are you such a jerk are you for gun control whos side are you on?Sorry if you were only being sarcastic I got to the bottom and it didnt seem very sarcastic to me,Ignorant i am hell yes we must ignore the gun control fascist and be ignorant to them and they must be expelled or killed from this country they are enmies just as the taliban are and deserve to be killed for high treason and conspiracy to commit crimes against freedom and humanity,And bodies should be hung in public saying why they are hanging their Nazi tactic yes but they shall only be getting a taste of their own medicine,Im tired of using politics we use politics to fight these fascists we will never win they must be taught the hard way.
 

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also getting rid of gun control is my lifes goal I hate anyone for gun control and i hate the whole thought of it,If i can get rid of gun control i will die happy because i know i would have contributed something good to humanity,Of course one man cannot do it all,Write books people get what you think out their dont take no for an answer and dont let the pigs censor you,If neccesary we may declare war we shall say we tried to settle things peacefully.
 

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WeisserWulf...WOW! breathe, man, breathe. ;)
Yeah i know,The topic just gets me so mad its like my lifes goal the one thing i want to do is get rid of this if i ever accomplish this i will be so stressed by that time marijuana might just have to be legalized.
 

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No Weisserwulf you have to remember that to get gun control eliminated you need politics....it works. Just because you are sick of it does not mean that is it not the most effective tool. Simply put the general population needs to be educated with the real hard facts. Once the general public is educated properly they will not vote for people who push useless and harmfull policies concerning gun control. All rhetoric like yours does is scare people away from the cause of lifiting gun bans because you sound like some crazy guy who is going to go around like a damned serbian death squad killing all who dont do what you want.


Event the Nazis and Facsists you so rant about used politics to get into power because brute force is not enough. After the failed Beer Hall Putsch of 23 the Nazis went out of the streets and into the Reichstag. Mussolini used politcal marches to show his level of support and to get power.

Politics works both ways. If you love freedom dont go around saying you are wanting to kill people who dont agree cause that is not freedom.....it something Stalin would send out the NKVD to do.
 

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No Weisserwulf you have to remember that to get gun control eliminated you need politics....it works. Just because you are sick of it does not mean that is it not the most effective tool. Simply put the general population needs to be educated with the real hard facts. Once the general public is educated properly they will not vote for people who push useless and harmfull policies concerning gun control. All rhetoric like yours does is scare people away from the cause of lifiting gun bans because you sound like some crazy guy who is going to go around like a damned serbian death squad killing all who dont do what you want.


Event the Nazis and Facsists you so rant about used politics to get into power because brute force is not enough. After the failed Beer Hall Putsch of 23 the Nazis went out of the streets and into the Reichstag. Mussolini used politcal marches to show his level of support and to get power.

Politics works both ways. If you love freedom dont go around saying you are wanting to kill people who dont agree cause that is not freedom.....it something Stalin would send out the NKVD to do.
Yeah i totally see what you mean it would violate their freedom of speech yeah but i see them as terrorists and enemies who are trying to take our rights away and any enemy of mine no longer has rights in my book.But yeah im biased i guess you could say i hate gun control people as much as hitler hated jews.Yeah i am kindve crazy guess everyone is sortve crazy some how or other am i an extremist yes i am what they would love to call a new breed of terrorist i am the PATRIOT!GASP!Yeah just gun control activist bashing saying my thoughts you know you have to say how you feel and you feel better sometimes,And i do feel better know that ive said what was on my mind not angry anymore.
 

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*Walks in* Woah...

I love those jokes, I marked the site I saw them on and I was going to post them on here but I forgot :(

As for Weis

I kinda feel the same way you do, I would fight for my rights.. no not just to party... and if they come to take the guns away I shall say "Come and get them"

But you should word things a tad less intense or people just look at you like a fanatic and will not lissen to ANYTHING you ever say. I try to look at both points... even if there wrong... It makes it easy to see where there comeing from to be able to defeat them in a battle. I love to debate stuff... and I will say im damn good at it. But to be lissened to you must explane stuff kind of calmly otherwise your just another "gun nut who will blow up more buildings one day" to them...
anti gun people looove to argue with people who cant control them selfs Why? Because they have found away to make it look like this is how all gun owners are and use this against all of us.

You can still say what you think, but take it down a few notches and think of calmer ways to say it.
 

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Ohh well even if it was sarcastic I still write how i feel,why are you such a jerk are you for gun control whos side are you on?Sorry if you were only being sarcastic I got to the bottom and it didnt seem very sarcastic to me,Ignorant i am hell yes we must ignore the gun control fascist and be ignorant to them and they must be expelled or killed from this country they are enmies just as the taliban are and deserve to be killed for high treason and conspiracy to commit crimes against freedom and humanity,And bodies should be hung in public saying why they are hanging their Nazi tactic yes but they shall only be getting a taste of their own medicine,Im tired of using politics we use politics to fight these fascists we will never win they must be taught the hard way.
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Ignorant i am hell yes
i have never once said that i am for or against gun control nor do i care to debate with you over the subject. there are many reasons, and the most important one being.... you have not been able to post one thing that even sounds remotely intelligent. i believe that you have no idea what you are writing and are just regurgitating information you have seen other ignorant people say or write. if you do actually know what you are writing, then i feel sorry for you, because it really is sad. and i definitely feel sorry for your mother...
 

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ok ok... we are so far off topic I dont even know what it was at first.As much as I hate to break up a good fight involving "your mother" attacks I think its gone a bit to far.

How about yall take advantage of the great private messanging system we have! Or we could open a new thread and sell tickets to the whole thing..
 

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werd! I'm about to lock it...

Done and Done. I think we have kicked this puppy enough for now.
 

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Calm down weisser, I don't want to have to ban anyone. This was all a joke, RS25 is a good friend of mine and is an avid gun collector.
 
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