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    Does anyone remember THV Arcane 9mm ammo?

    It was rated as being 45 grs at 2400 fps in a 5" 9x19 Luger! It uses a solid brass bullet, which did not expand, and which makes it illegal to possess under the Federal AP handgun ammo law. But consider what could be done with a solid aluminum hollowpoint design, made on a lathe. Aluminum is a material not named as a "no-no" in said Federal law. To make it safe to use in guns today, such a bullet should be loaded into the .100" longer, much thicker (at the web, where cases blow out onto the feed ramp if overloaded) 356 TSW case. Naturally, the barrel's chamber has to be deepened for the longer casing, but that's just an $80 part and a $40 smithing fee.

    While the THV stuff WAS overpressure for use in most 9x19 guns, the longer, stronger case of the 356 TSW rd, using such a short bullet (with a huge, conical cavity in the base) allows for the use of much more than the (normally maximum) amount of powder, allowing the achievement of such outlandish-seeming velocities, while keeping the pressures at safe levels. This is .22 Hornet RIFLE type energy, if the rifle's target is say, 50 yds away. Since handgun defensive impacts are nearly always at 10 yds and less, we need not worry about losing any significant amount of velocity. Such a bullet wt, at such a speed, means that your 5" barreled 9mm hits with 550 ft lbs of energy, but the recoil-momentum is the same as a load that has a 90 gr bullet at 1200 fps. or a 115 gr bullet at 950 fps, same recoil Is that interesting, or what? The orginal factory specs for a .22 hornet was 45 grs at 2650 fps, for 650 ft lbs. It was a very blunt, HP cavity in a softpoint design. it lost velocity quickly. The more modern, spitzer bullets for the Hornet are lighter and are driven to higher velocity. So the energy figures for today's Hornet ammo are more like 800 ft lbs.
    Last edited by blastit; 06-09-2013 at 05:19 PM.

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